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I bought a light #1 genny from National (Dirk) many yrs ago and always placed in the top 3. I carried it in a little heavier air than designed many a time and only re-broad seamed it once on 3 seams to move the bag forward and stay competitive. Dirk represents Rolly Tasker in Phuket Thailand. MANY of the large name lofts use off shore manufacturing locations. If you want an American Loft for racing, or that personal touch, Pineapple Sails in Alameda, CA would be my choice.

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I think that the local vs national decision depends on what is available in your local area. There are a very limited number of lofts in the Vancouver area.

Our sailing co-op used a local company, called Storch Sails for the longest time. Unfortunately, Gary is now pretty much retired in Nanaimo. Great for Gary; not so great for Vancouver Sailors.

The sails on our recently purchased Mirage 29' were cut by Doyle sails, in Seattle, in 2006. I can't say I'm real impressed, but one of the PO's liked to do stuff on the cheap.

However, since buying the boat last fall, my experience has been that not all North Sails are alike. Our co-op began using them when Gary retired, and I took our foresail in, to have a proper UV strip added. Our club has been very pleased with both quality of work and price. The same holds true for me, and I even got quotes from the other local lofts.

Let's put it this way: my experience has been good enough that I would ask them for a quote when I replace the sails.

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Whoops! I forgot to mention that North's Vancouver location appears to do local work, though it is possible that only the final touches are done here.

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If it were me, look at Ullmans CAL main, about 1500-1600 for a 30' boat depending upon the size. That was my quote for a fully roached, 2 reef, 2 full/partial battens. It is a laminate, slightly lighter wt than an equal dacron, same life span etc.

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Thanks for the great advice. The least expensive sail from National sounds like a good way to go. I am waiting on an estimate from Ullmans. The original sail was from there and it lasted 30 years. I will probably go local with North. I sail out of the Chesapeake and visit Annapolis alot. They offer a triradial cut sail for $2000. Is triradial construction over crosscut worth the extra money?
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Islands50:

Have you checked Bacon's "consigment" inventory? I just bought a new, unused sail by Pope for $800 for my Coronado 25. I brought my 40 year-old main in, and it's a perfect match. Well, it has just a little more roach. Amazing.

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As far as straight dacron goes, I have 6 new sails over the last 6 yrs of owning my boat, NONE of them are dacron other than the 110 which is a crosscut/tri radial dac/mylar as you are looking at.
Reason I have gone with laminates, one the cloth is slightly lighter, here in PNW/puget sound, we get a lot of light wind days, ie under 10 knots. The laminates pickup the zephers better. One of the sails is a 1.5oz contender spin cloth 130 drifter. Works wonderfull in winds under 6-7 knots.

My cruiser 140 is the ullman CAL. 155 and main are fiberpath/string sails, I race a lot too. In hind sight, I should have done the CAL main. Along with a spin that the boat did not have.

I personally with the way laminates are made today, cost of many etc, do not see that dacron is the way to go from a longevity or cost standpoint. The lower cost dacs are 2-3 generation ago dacron, so yes they will be cheaper. They will work too. I know of one local with Cruising Direct now north outlet sails. He knew they were older generation dacron.

Make sure you understand what you are getting too.

This is my .02 not that it is worth much. But reasons for doing what I did, choose what you like, disregard what you do not like. Sail material is a pretty wide range of what to do vs not to do subject with varied answers across a wide range of what to do.

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Just recieved a great price quote for a Ullman sail. Anybody out there have a reveiw on Ullman sails ?
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Which versions? The CAL? Fiberpath? or a nylon drifter? own all three.

Luv them all, local guys have been good, out of settle/san diego. combo. I've used the fiberpath and drifter more than the CAL.

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Standard cruising main built from Bainbridge 7 oz. Dacron. Talking to Max out of Havre de Grase. 10 minute drive from my boat. To be built in Ohio. Is this a quality sail?
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