Toilet Humor

[eolon]

Well, actually, it's not that funny. My Spring project is to remove my old ceramic unit and holding tank and macerator and leaks and smells and replace it with a Thetford 465.

The 465 MSD is the marine version, evidently they don't have an Army version, HAHAHA! (promised toilet humor). The MSD bolts to the deck, which is good. The thing is, I want to be able to take the tank and empty into the toilet at the marina, instead of pumping it out. It appears that the model 465 lets you do that, but not the 465 MSD, which does not include the pour spout; BUT the model 456, which has a pour spout, doesn't bolt to the deck.

Anyone have any experience with these models? How can I bolt it down, but still have it be removable, and having the pour spout?

Thanks, and

Best Regards,

e

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[sailingdog]

Is the pour spout integrated into the tank or a piece you can add on? If the latter, ask the manufacturer to send you one.

[mitiempo]

"bolted to the deck" ???

Mine is below.

[sailingdog]

He must like fresh air and not need the privacy of head down below...

Originally Posted by mitiempo

"bolte to the deck" ???

Mine is below.

[eolon]

Yes, I suppose I could adapt the MSD with a pour spout, but I wonder why they don't offer it (at least as an option) in the first place.

I guess I could get the 465 non-marine version and just nail it to the hull

Best Regards,


e

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[eolon]

It's below...


but I COULD just duct-tape a toilet seat to the stern rail - It would be cheaper.


Best Regards,

e

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[Architeuthis]

I thought they all had the spout, I'd email the company to be sure it is a problem. They are easy to secure by using angled flat bar to hold the bottom in place and a strap across the top for when not in use. Even if bolted I would have a strap across the top to hold it in place. They are not meant to be on their side or upside down for long.

[redline]

Just ran across this thread doing some of my own research. I do know that in some jurisdictions (e.g. Lake Champlain), any Marine Sanitation Device which is fixed to the boat, can *only* be pumped out to shoreside facilities. "Porta-potti" type removeable units and/or tanks are not permitted. The reason is simple, albeit disgusting - some folks would merely dump them overboard to avoid paying for a pump-out.
Apparently it's legal to pee overboard, or to pee in a buck and dump that over, but if the "bucket" is bolted down, then suddently it is a MSD and must be fitted for through-deck discharge only.

I can live with the rules (even if my record was paying what amounted to $17/gal - and we thought gas we expensive), but somehow it seems unfair that some states charge tax on those mandatory pump-outs.

Norman

[sailingdog]

Actually, peeing in a bucket and dumping it overboard is illegal, because a bucket is considered a marine sanitation device if it is used to hold human waste.

Originally Posted by redline

Just ran across this thread doing some of my own research. I do know that in some jurisdictions (e.g. Lake Champlain), any Marine Sanitation Device which is fixed to the boat, can *only* be pumped out to shoreside facilities. "Porta-potti" type removeable units and/or tanks are not permitted. The reason is simple, albeit disgusting - some folks would merely dump them overboard to avoid paying for a pump-out.
Apparently it's legal to pee overboard, or to pee in a buck and dump that over, but if the "bucket" is bolted down, then suddently it is a MSD and must be fitted for through-deck discharge only.

I can live with the rules (even if my record was paying what amounted to $17/gal - and we thought gas we expensive), but somehow it seems unfair that some states charge tax on those mandatory pump-outs.

Norman

[xort]

Originally Posted by eolon

but I COULD just duct-tape a toilet seat to the stern rail.

Just make sure you only use it while the diver is below servicing your bottom