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zz4gta 04-02-2010 03:21 PM

Is this a good deal for chesapeake bay sailing? MD and VA
Would like to get a GPS for cruising and racing but have never had one before. I want to make sure that "COASTAL CHARTS" includes the ches bay.

sailingdog 04-02-2010 04:18 PM

That does look like a good deal....but what warranty is offered with the unit? Is it factory refurbished???

tempest 04-02-2010 04:25 PM

I Think the Colorado is a good unit, But I think you might have to purchase unlock codes to get the detailed chesapeake bay charts.

The mapsource CD ( accesories) allows you to plan routes and trips at home on your laptop or desktop and then you can upload to the handheld.

I'd check with garmin or this vendor...on the level of chart detail.

I have the Garmin 76 csx and had to purchase unlock codes.

if so, you've got to figure in another expense.

nickmerc 04-02-2010 05:57 PM

I have the GPSMAP 441 (I think that's the right number for coastal charts) and have plenty of detail in the Bay. Mapsource is no longer the PC program Garmin uses. Check the website for details. I think the new one costs around $30.
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LinekinBayCD 04-02-2010 07:23 PM

The OP's link indicates its refurbished but with a 1 year manufaturer's warranty which is standard for Garmin. I think it is a good deal even for a refurbished model but I'd check some online retailers to compare.

I don't believe it needs any unlock codes. I just got a Garmin Oregon 400c touchscreen for $299 with every US coastal chart (as far as I can tell) preloaded. But don't believe me check with Garmin.

I think the pronary difference betwen the Oregon and Colorodo series is touch screen vs pinwheel.

tempest 04-02-2010 10:19 PM

The ad says g2 loaded. it looks like, If it's this coverage you should be good.


Mapsource is still used as far as I know, I dowloaded it again last month with updates. I haven't seen another windows based system from garmin?

brak 04-02-2010 11:05 PM

FWIW I tried Garmin Colorado last year and hated it. I would not use it as either a primary or a secondary navigation device (if you are interested - search for my post on the topic, it is a long saga with Defender in it, but the device review comes first).

The deal looks ok, but it ain't much more new ($285 at Amazon with free shipping)

fparry 04-03-2010 03:09 AM


I wouldn't be overly concerned about the fact that a product is labeled "refurbished" That doesn't necessarily mean what it says and if the warranty is good then there is little need to be concerned.

In todays digital market anything that has been returned to the manufacturer for any reason can be inspected and resold as refurbished. Most of the time the units are new and have never been removed from their original packaging. Outlets specializing in refurbished units offer them at discounted prices all the time.

nickmerc 04-03-2010 08:18 AM

I will second fparry's assertion that refurbished is not a big deal. I have bought many refurbished power tools and electronics. As long as the OEM inspects and certifies them they usually have the same warranty. So, you get a like new unit at a huge discount with a standard warranty. Not a bad deal.


You can still get Mapsource updates, however you need to already have purchased the software. The new program Garmin is selling is Home Port. Some of the newer units, from what I understand, will not work with Mapsource.
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TakeFive 04-03-2010 10:43 PM

I have the Oregon 400c, and am generally happy with it for my purposes. I bought a $10 bicycle handlebar mount and put it at the top of my pedestal guard, so it's right where I need it, but I can easily remove it when I'm away from the boat.

Rather than pay for their chart plotting software, I use SeaClear with the free NOAA download raster charts to plot routes on my computer, and use the free g7towin software with Garmin's free Spanner software to translate between the Garmin and SeaClear file formats for waypoints, routes, and tracks. So I have nice routes in the Garmin device for all the places I need to go. I can also hook the Oregon directly to my netbook and use it as the receiver to view the boat's position, SOG, etc. directly in SeaClear. I expect that the Colorado works similarly.

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