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Do the electric models have an adequate manual back-up? Have you tried it?
Our current windlass is fantastic but there is no way I could retrieve the anchor (30kg Bruce + 200' chain) in manual mode in sufficient time. It would be quicker and probably easier to do it by hand. The 'manual mode' seems to be a gimmick rather than a bonefide back-up option. Your thoughts again please.
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The Maxwell Capstan/Gypsy can be released from the drive unit by loosening the cone-clutch and then turned with a handle manually but, frankly, that would be pretty tough (1:1 ratio). If we did loose the drive I would simply use one of our two snubber lines by attaching the chain hook to the chain at the chain-stoppers abaft the bow rollers and hauling in the line with one of the deck winches on either side of the mast. With two 25' snubber lines I would haul one in (about 20' from bow roller to winch) and then attach the second at the chain stopper and lead it to the second winch on the opposit side of the mast to haul in another 20 feet. By alternating we could pretty easily haul in all the chain we have aboard in short order without fooling with the Windlass manually. (I used snubbers and halyard winches in this manner on our old boat which did not have a windlass and it worked perfectly for 20 years).

We have had no difficulty with the Maxwell nor snagged an anchor thus far. For a really stuck anchor I would bouy the rode and dive the anchor before trying to muscle it up with a windlass or winch and, absent a 3-4 foot breaker bar to add to the windlass handle, the drive will develop far more torque than I can manually. (These are simple, reliable, no BS windlasses.)
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I like the chain snubber idea - thanks.
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I had the SL555 on my Endeavour. Nice 2-speed but it took a long time to get the chain up so I ended up using my body for most of the heavy lifting. I did use the SL to break out the anchor and bring it to the surface.

The 2-speeds are nice as is the non-powered feature but I've gotten spoiled on an electric version.

My electric has a manual mode that's not as good as the SL555 low speed but it'll do the job; just not as fast or well.

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We have a bronze ABI with no plans to switch to electric.

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All of the manual windlass I have looked at cost twice as much or more then an electric one. Why is that?

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Ditto on the Simpson Lawrence except mine is a one speed model and the two speed would be preferred when single handing. I prefer manual over electric due to the KISS principle however when looking to buy a new boat in the upper 50 foot range I was going to put a Lighthouse windless on before the stock market crashed. For 40 feet and under I would stay with the manual.
I'm another with the manual vertical Simpson Lawrence. Fifteen years of excellent performance and limited maintenance. Take care and joy, Aythya crew
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