Bright-work refinish with Honey Teak, advice? - Page 2 - SailNet Community
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #11 of 15 Old 07-29-2010 Thread Starter
mrybas's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 85
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 10
I did some HT on bare wood around the cockpit coaming around bubbles. It must be a sun/heat related problem.
mrybas is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
post #12 of 15 Old 07-29-2010
Senior Member
RichH's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,547
Thanks: 42
Thanked 258 Times in 244 Posts
Rep Power: 18
"Rich H- If I understand you correctly, less catalyst will make the batch kick faster? So, you recommend less catalyst for verticals, which will speed up the 'kick"?"

Yup, as strange as it seems, less catalyst (and less 'flow fluid") will speed up the 'kick'.

As stated before DONT WORRY ABOUT THE BUBBLES ON THE FIRST COAT .... the successive coats will fill in the 'crater' left by the 'bubbles'. Varnish can also do this 'bubbles' / outgassing; just be sure to lay on THICK (on the 'horizontals') and the craters will 'fill' and level out. Promise.

Note: if you HAVE to flat sand because the 'bubbles' are showing through successive coats, do not sand the 'base coat' but add a few more 'clear' coats and flat sand the clear (only) coats .... if you see 'yellow' in the sanding water, STOP, as you are now sanding down into the base coat.

If you have a LOT of 'craters' from all the bubbling of the first coating ON (hot) HORIZONTALS, let cure a bit for several HOURS, then apply more but use a polyethylene trowel and PUSH new base, etc. INTO the craters. The trowel will remove the new and will help to fill the 'craters' ...... just like how one works gelcoat on a male plug mold. Ditto for 'leveling' boo-boos on the large vertical surfaces; for 'verticals' use LESS 'flow fluid'.


Last edited by RichH; 07-29-2010 at 06:12 PM.
RichH is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #13 of 15 Old 07-29-2010
Tartan 27' owner
CalebD's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,116
Thanks: 9
Thanked 144 Times in 136 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Holy Toledo Batman, there is a lot of teak on your boat! Gorgeous but a bit of work, eh?
Great suggestions on the use of HT by RichH above. I had a similar problem using Bristol Finish (BF) on a much smaller project (grab rails) for my boat - the dreaded bubbling. Subsequent sanding and re-coating seemed to take care of it.
I second or third the advice of only using an oil based product like teak oil or the Semco mentioned on your decks or nothing at all. Most regular finishes can get quite slippery when wet.

Cetol (Interlux) recently came out with a new flavor called 'Natural Teak' which I have used on most of my exterior teak (not nearly as much as yours) with positive results with mostly annual maintenance. I'm quite sure it is cheaper, looks more like varnish then Cetol 'Marine' and does not have the 'bubble up' issue that some of the eurathane products seem to have like HT and BF.

I hope that HT works out for you with RichH's advice.

"a three hour tour, a three hour tour..."

"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CalebD is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #14 of 15 Old 07-29-2010
Senior Member
bljones's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,484
Thanks: 35
Thanked 93 Times in 82 Posts
Rep Power: 10
What kind of brushes were you using? Did you stir or shake the finishing material before using it? did you clear your brushes prior to each application? did you work the finish back and forth, or lay it down in one direction? did you wipe down the teak with acetone or laquer thinner immediately before laying on your finish?
bljones is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #15 of 15 Old 07-30-2010
Senior Member
RichH's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,547
Thanks: 42
Thanked 258 Times in 244 Posts
Rep Power: 18
Generally 'quality' foam brushes work well when using HT; although, high quality 'soft' large artists brushes work best followed by lightly and quickly 'tipping' with a dry foam brush. Laydown should be the same as varnish - full brush pulled in one direction only and at a low angle with light pressure, just like varnish you want it to 'flow'. For superb flow-out and leveling on the final clear coat, the use of a Preval type self-contained spray-bottle is ultimately the 'very best'. Preval Paint Spray Gun Kit

Acetone or Lacquer thinner, etc. are 'verboten' when using HT, so is the prior use of any 'stripper' unless you are willing to wait an immense amount of time for the MEK, etc. to outgas away.
RichH is online now  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook

Quick Reply

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cetol Vs Honey Teak e-27 sailor Gear & Maintenance 15 07-02-2014 05:12 PM
Techniques for Removing Teak Decks Sue & Larry Buying a Boat Articles 0 11-24-2003 07:00 PM
Reducing Exterior Maintenance Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 10-15-2003 08:00 PM
Refitting an Older Boat Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 12-16-2000 07:00 PM
Bristol Teak Tom Wood Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 11-02-1999 07:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome