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"I was thinking the spray headliner glue for cars...?"
I'd suggest 3M's #77 Sprayment, which is a permanent adhesive, or their headliner spray, yes. All of those sprays are "rubber cement" but some of the cheap stuff is not permanent, or releases after time and heat. Buy a brand name. Then let it air out, once the solvent kicks off there should be no toxicity problem.
The foam itself may need to air out for a week or longer anyway, to get rid of chemicals from the manufacturing.
That is the biggest complaint I have read about the less expensive memory foam mattress it that since they come vacuum packed they give off a lot of odor at first. I think it is more that it is packed in plastic, rather than the loose covering of the more expensive ones as they do not ship compressed. I think a few days or perhaps a week, and they will be OK.

I would check a good craft store (or even better would be an upholstery shop) and see what they recommend, you don't want to wind up melting the foam!
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paul, someone in the wetsuit industry clued me in some years ago. All "foams" are made one of two ways. Either they inject compressed gas (nitrogen) under pressure, and then release the pressure to allow the foam to fizz up in a mold, or they use "pancake batter" which fizzes up as it is heated in a mold.

The batter solidifies and cures to become the "foamed" rubber, either way. But using compressed nitrogen, which is chemically inert, is way way more expensive than using "pancake batter" which will bubble up from internal chemical reactions, literally just like baking a soda bread. Odds are the odors are from the various chemicals given off during the curing, and they are simply trapped by the plastic wrapper.

Some of the companies make a point about the non-toxicity of their foams, because you never really know what it is you are inhaling, up close, for eight hours every night, while a new mattress is outgassing. Another good reason to let it air out until you really can't smell anything from it.

The 3M #77 won't melt upholstery foams, it is designed for them. That's one of the materials normally used to assemble layers of foam mattresses. I'm sure there are others that are water-based and don't use petroleum solvents these days. Latex-based "cove base molding adhesive" from the hardware store also can work very well, it is a white paste designed to bond rubber/vinyl moldings to wall bases, but then you'll have to "butter" both pieces of foam in order to apply it. Water based, no solvent worries, but I'll keep using the 3M myself.
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Another way to increase comfort without increasing depth of the foam is to put in a Froli system. For about $250, I added these little springs under the V-berth and it's like sleeping on an innerspring mattress. They're like tinkertoys gone wild and only took me about an hour and a half to install; and that included doing it wrong the first time.
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I started to put my Thermarest on top of my foam cushions. As I get older I am less tolerant of thin foam cushions. I found the combination of the two pads is great. I like that I can stow the Thermarest when not in use since I sleep in the salon and I can use it for other activities. Last I checked they are reasonably priced.
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