Updating Costs for a 1978 Southern Cross 31
Looking for costs associated with replacing the following items. I would like both DYI costs and/or yard costs as I'll be deciding what to do myself and what to have a yard do.
1. Standing rigging replacement (not mast)
2. Caprail replacement
4. remove bottom paint, fare, and barrier coat.
5. Thru hulls
Also need recommendation for a boatyard in the Tampa/St Pete area that could do some/all of the work.
Does standing rigging also mean mast replacement?
Depending on what you mean by the what you said, the quotes will vary considerably. I'd recommend you do as much of the work as you can, as the labor prices at most boat yards are running north of $85-100 PER HOUR. Finding a yard that allows you to do the work will be a problem in many areas.
Standing rigging is relatively simple to do. What I recommend is you drop the mast and take your rigging, assuming it is basically intact, and ship it to Riggingonly.com in Fairhaven, MA. They can make up replacement rigging for it based on what you send them. I would highly recommend you get the shrouds and stays a bit long and have the top terminals swaged and use Hayn HiMod mechanical fittings for the bottom and terminate them yourself.
As for the caprail replacement... that can vary a lot, depending on how it is fastened and what it is made of.
Re-wiring the boat is primarily labor... the material costs aren't all that expensive compared to the labor involved. I'd recommend buying the wiring, crimper, crimp terminals and such and doing it yourself. Maine Sail has an excellent tutorial page on Marine Wiring Termination that you should definitely read.
As for removing the bottom paint, one of the most cost-effective ways to do this is to have someone sodablast the boat. It is reasonably inexpensive to have done. Properly done, it leaves the surface ready for fairing, barrier coating and bottom painting. I'd point out that unless there are some really gross problems with the bottom's condition, fairing it isn't going to help all that much, since a Southern Cross 31 is not a fast boat, and no amount of fairing will help it much.
Barrier coating is pretty easy to do yourself. I wrote this post about using Interprotect 2000E to barrier coat, and alternating the colors to make it easier to do neatly.
Maine Sail has an excellent tutorial on installing/replacing through-hulls.
A ton of money and i am not being a smartazz
How much is hard to say as we dont no the scope of any of the work like the through hull quanity
It could be up to current standards or require major work with new backing plates to install one or require taking apart a good bit of the boat to reach it
I agree with dog about the rigging. It is not a hard job to do yourself if you start with slightly long stays and shrouds with the top end swaged. The Hayn HiMod are easy to use and better for the bottom end than swages.
Wiring is easy with the right tools and a bit of planning. The b*tch is the access. Sometimes a simple wire run can take hours depending what has to be removed to get at it. Those hours can really add up if you are getting it done prefessionally. Most of those paid hours are not for electrical ingenuity. The link dog posted is excellent and really all you need to do the job right.
Also on that link is the best through hull how-to I have ever seen, step by step with lots of pictures to guide you through all aspects of the job.
Compass Marine Project Articles Photo Gallery by Compass Marine at pbase.com
The first 3 relate to through hulls.
Caprail? Depends greatly on what type.
There are a number of yards in St. Pete along Salt Creek that can give you an estimate for the work you need them to do versus what you can do yourself. Tampa yards offer the same.
Try using Angie's List, they are site dedicated to exactly what you're trying to do. But, if you don't want to go that route, I usually find Google Maps/Reviews are helpful.
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