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rust on swaged rigging

SO last year i paid my local rigger to replace all the standing rigging on my C&C 30. ( I noticed a few cracks in the swages, and the rig was at least 12 years old as the PO told me).


It has been just about one year, maybe a month or two more, and I am noticing significant rust around the top of the side stays swage where the wire rope enters the fitting. even the 12+ year old cracked swages didnt look like this! these are the deck level upper and lower stays.


is something wrong here? the riggers bill says he used 316 SS, could he maybe have been mistaken/lied and used 304? or would this happen on either grade of SS?


i am concerned mainly because this rigging is only one year old, and expecting many more years out of it. but at the rate its going it does not look good.
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I'd talk to your rigger about it. BTW, I generally recommend going with SWAGES for the TOP terminals, and mechanical fittings, specifically Hayn Hi-Mods, for the lower terminals.
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I'd talk to your rigger about it. BTW, I generally recommend going with SWAGES for the TOP terminals, and mechanical fittings, specifically Hayn Hi-Mods, for the lower terminals.

Just wondering, are any of the mechnical fasteners long enough to replace an existing swage without running a new wirerope?
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which is rusting.. the rope or the fitting?
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Just wondering, are any of the mechnical fasteners long enough to replace an existing swage without running a new wirerope?
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Anytime SS has been worked it needs to be re-passivated. In another words just polish it with some good acidic cleaner and don't worry about it. Even the iron from the crimping tool will get passed over to the SS during the crimp.

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Anytime SS has been worked it needs to be re-passivated. In another words just polish it with some good acidic cleaner and don't worry about it. Even the iron from the crimping tool will get passed over to the SS during the crimp.

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i will take a picture tomrorow, but it looks like the wire rope inside the swage and/or the inside of the swage itself
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You'll need to get close up and personal on the rigging to find out just what is rusting and whether it is a problem. I'd be the last one to say someone wasn't trying to cheat...but it is totally possible that your rigger was buying parts from a low-cost bidder, who in turn had no idea they were getting intentionally counterfeit or sub-quality parts from the lowest priced source in China.
So by all means, call the rigger, ask him to come over and take a look, and see what he has to say about it.

There are ways to test for the alloy type, but it may be cheaper to send a piece out for testing, or to have someone else test it, than to DIY:

http://koslow.com/metal_test_kits/1542c.html
At $300+ for a kit, a bit much for one shot.
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