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Is'nt there an old superstition about bananas on a boat?....brings bad luck...er, or maybe just fruit flies.......
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Thanks to all who reponded. Most informative, think we'll go with one.
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Why hasn't someone come out with a lower priced version. It seems like this is a pretty simple plastic device that could be made much cheaper. I would put one in my boat for around $500, but the $900 that both are selling for seems too much.

Do you get any deals on these at the boat shows?
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Have had a nature's head for 1.5 years or so now. It's great. Not as nice as a shore side flush toilet but MUCH better than a holding tank. Didn't like the peat moss instead use coconut bricks. Much better and they don't come with bugs!

I think the nature's head is better for a few reasons not the least of which is customer service. I called once when I was first using it and immediately the owner and designer was on the phone with some great tips. He reccomended switching to coocnut fiber and INSISTED on next day airmailing me some coconut fiber bricks. That cost him to the tune of $40 in shipping but he wanted to be SURE we were happy. Now that's service!

Whichever one you buy, get a spare pee bottle.

Also if you add an extra sink in the corner of your little room that you (hopefully) don't use for washing hands it makes for a convenient and descreet place to empty your pee bottles without offending your neighbors or making you go out in the middle of the night in the rain. This is of course only for use offshore or canada. Peeing in the water (or emptying pee down the sink) is illegal in the USA. A sink, however, is NOT an MSD and is not required to be padlocked closed etc while travelling in the USA... ;-)

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would point out that if you use a sink to dispose of urine, it would be considered an MSD... By definition and law, an MSD is a Marine Sanitation Device... and anything used to handle human waste is an MSD. A bucket is an MSD if you pee or poo in it...
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would point out that if you use a sink to dispose of urine, it would be considered an MSD... By definition and law, an MSD is a Marine Sanitation Device... and anything used to handle human waste is an MSD. A bucket is an MSD if you pee or poo in it...
Incorrect SD. I have actually READ the CFRs (code of federal regularions, ie the law that the coast guard enforses) on this topic. The terminology they use is that a MSD is a "device designed to transport or store waste." The sink, or bucket doesn't qualify. If you decide to use it as such (while offshore or in cadada)then so be it, you're using a bucket not an MSD. It's the word "designed" that is critical. Here is the CFR:

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§ 159.3 Definitions Marine sanitation device and device includes any equipment for installation on board a vessel which is designed to receive, retain, treat, or discharge sewage, and any process to treat such sewage.

It kind of reminds me of how everyone at work goes around saying that the HIPPA law doesn't let you do this or that. Only one of the doctors I work with has actually read the law....
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