which paper charts to buy - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 18 Old 08-25-2010 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 525
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 6
 
which paper charts to buy

I'm looking for some paper charts for the New England area, specifically MA, and I'll need closeups of Boston Harbor.

When I was taking my ASA courses, I believe the instruction recommended ChartKits, which are booklets of charts spiral bound, but I could be mistaken. I've found one that covers RI to the Canadian border for about $100 online. Is this a good thing to buy?

I've always seen navigators working on their paper charts with a pencil. It must eventually wear the chart out to constantly erase on it. Water must also damage it. I'm wondering why people don't use laminated charts and then write on them with a fine-tipped marker like for overhead transparencies (it washes off, something like an Expo marker). Does this exist? Is it recommended?
rmeador is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Bristol 45.5 - AiniA
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 3,821
Thanks: 5
Thanked 96 Times in 84 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
The chart kit you are referring to is an excellent choice - it has complete coverage at a good price. Also you need to decide whether you need only local coverage or regional coverage.

Charts and chart kits are generally printed on very good paper and can take a bit of spray without damage. There are some laminated charts and kits as well, but they are pricier. To some extent it depends on your boat's setup and where you will be doing your plotting. Generally this will be inside the boat and out of the weather (mostly). If you like to work in the cockpit or use the charts for reference in the cockpit you have to be careful not to get them too damp.

Most markers produce a pretty wide line compared to a sharp pencil so will not be as accurate. If you use a hard pencil and a good art eraser you will not damage your charts. Paper charts are also better for updating from notices to mariners.

Back home on Lake Ontario after something over 36,000 nm circumnavigator. Not surprisingly there is a lot of stuff I want to get done on Ainia both cosmetically and functionally. Getting an early start so it will be ready to go for next summer (Lake Superior?).
killarney_sailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Sundance 23
 
carl762's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 878
Thanks: 2
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Yes. We used to use this stuff on military maps, back in the Vietnam war days.

Grafix Clear Acetate Rolls - BLICK art materials

Buying a roll to try out on my charts.

Water is Life
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
carl762 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
美国华人, 帆船 教授及输送
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: MD
Posts: 2,531
Thanks: 24
Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmeador View Post
I'm looking for some paper charts for the New England area, specifically MA, and I'll need closeups of Boston Harbor.

When I was taking my ASA courses, I believe the instruction recommended ChartKits, which are booklets of charts spiral bound, but I could be mistaken. I've found one that covers RI to the Canadian border for about $100 online. Is this a good thing to buy?

I've always seen navigators working on their paper charts with a pencil. It must eventually wear the chart out to constantly erase on it. Water must also damage it. I'm wondering why people don't use laminated charts and then write on them with a fine-tipped marker like for overhead transparencies (it washes off, something like an Expo marker). Does this exist? Is it recommended?
Buy Maptech Waterproof Chart Kit. I use writable scotch tape and pencil. After I am done I just peel it off. Works for me.

Do not buy from West marine, which is 30 dollars more. The best price I found is Here - Sailnet


Fine Print:
I am old school. Integrity is to do the right thing even when no one is watching.
rockDAWG is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Ashland Ma
Posts: 46
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Watch the dates on the charts in the kits. I bought a set (Richardson's LI S. Shore), discovered the charts were early 2000's and returned it. I am contemplating the Cape Cod to Maine book from the same outfit, those seem to have later dates (2007). Maybe I have real job someday again and can buy the $100 set.

I found, on my cruise, that the printable charts from NOAAs booklet url served me well for an area I was going to cruise once. I also downloaded all the free *.kap files from NOAA (LI through Cape Ann), loaded them in Seaclear II (also free), and as long as I have a laptop and GPS operational, I have everything I need. It'll be sweet to hook up a GPSMAP 76... to it and track progress without loading individual points via ... that would not be sneaker-net... deck-shoe-net?

I like plotting the course, keeping tabs on where we are the old fashioned way with pencil, parallel edges, etc. and hope to practice night navigation by the stars. But it takes time and your tillerman has to be happy during the time it takes to do so.

Sterilecuckoo58
Vivacity 24 twin keel
Johnson O/B 9.9
sterilecuckoo58 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Senior Member
 
tommays's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,296
Thanks: 1
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
I have the chartbooks and like at least a few large paper charts for some places as i find many times having to flip to page 22 to be a PITA

1970 Cal 29 Sea Fever

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1981 J24 Tangent 2930
Tommays
Northport NY


If a dirty bottom slows you down what do you think it does to your boat
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
tommays is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Senior Member
 
QuickMick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: California
Posts: 1,381
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
cant you get them free from NOAA?

NOAA BookletCharts
SEE 1370/1372

NOAA RNC Distributorship

How inappropriate to call this planet Earth when it is quite clearly Ocean ~ Arthur C. Clarke

Quinn McColly
Macgregor Venture
QuickMick is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,556
Thanks: 7
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
I recommend getting a clear plastic zip lock bag, most marine stores have them. you can sllde the entire chart kit inside so it doesn't get wet when in the cockpit.

I also recommend using the paper chart for ready location reference with GPS as confirmation of location. You get a much more understandable picture of where you are and where you are going, from a paper chart than a display.

Certified...in several regards...
sailingfool is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 18 Old 08-25-2010 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 525
Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 6
 
Yes, you can download free charts, though I was unaware there were ones that meet all the requirements for charts, which those appear to do. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'd just like something bigger and tougher than I can get out of my printer (actually, I don't have a printer, I'd have to print it at work, and it would be in black and white... it's easier to just buy some good ones).
rmeador is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 18 Old 08-25-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 696
Thanks: 9
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 6
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmeador View Post
I'm looking for some paper charts for the New England area, specifically MA, and I'll need closeups of Boston Harbor.

When I was taking my ASA courses, I believe the instruction recommended ChartKits, which are booklets of charts spiral bound, but I could be mistaken. I've found one that covers RI to the Canadian border for about $100 online. Is this a good thing to buy?

I've always seen navigators working on their paper charts with a pencil. It must eventually wear the chart out to constantly erase on it. Water must also damage it. I'm wondering why people don't use laminated charts and then write on them with a fine-tipped marker like for overhead transparencies (it washes off, something like an Expo marker). Does this exist? Is it recommended?
The Chart Kits are a good buy although using a chart near the spiral can be a bit of a pain. When it comes to harbor charts I like the full size rather than what is available in the chartkit. Depending on your needs MapTech also puts out nice waterproof charts for a variety of areas. They fold up like a road map. and cover a large area.
LinekinBayCD is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Downloadable PRINTABLE NOAA Charts bobwebster Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 131 05-19-2015 04:29 PM
Need new chainplates - Where to buy the stainless? 316 vs 2205? neoxaero SailNet FAQ 15 06-20-2012 02:26 PM
Online Tide and Current charts paris General Discussion (sailing related) 6 08-10-2010 05:20 AM
To buy a sail boat in Florida Mabou Boat Review and Purchase Forum 7 08-02-2010 05:07 PM
Charts not chartering questions Diamondjet Chartering 6 07-30-2010 10:39 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome