Stuck centerboard - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 18 Old 09-28-2010 Thread Starter
Sea Slacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,789
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Stuck centerboard

Just when I was planning my weekend sail on (new to me) boat - big problem, stuck centerboard. Evidently, there was not much clearance between centerboard and trunk. Yard that did bottom painting (here is what happens when you ask someone to do the job for you) didn't sand much (at all?), and so whatever clearance was there - is pretty much taken by paint.

Worse yet, they did realize that centerboard would get stuck as they were planning to load the boat on a trailer. One would hope that a reasonable person would stop, think, come up with a solution first (or call the owner and say "we can't do it"). These guys don't stop for little stuff like that. Instead they lowered the boat right on a trailer with centerboard as is. 2000+lbs of a boat bearing down on it will get any centerboard in the trunk - even sideways, dammit, but only once.

Now, complaining won't help (and neither will the boatyard) - so it's my problem to deal with. I am looking for ideas. Here is what I tried (3 days of work down the drain so far):
1. mask/snorkel/5 hours in the water pulling - no go
2. tear off centerboard trunk cover (100 screws and gobs of 5200 held it - that was a bear of a job), then push on centerboard as much as I can (even bang with a hammer, through a piece of wood - but not too much, don't need a new problem) - no va
3. Try to get a knife blade between centerboard and trunk from below/above - nothing (it's tight)

So now here are my next ideas:
- Get steel guitar string, run it between centerboard and trunk, try to "saw off" some paint that way? (Prolly will end up with string stuck in there?)

- Build some sort of a thingamajig with wood board on the cb, and another into the cabin ceiling, insert car jack in between, push (I wonder if I'll just make a hole in the ceiling?)

What else can I do other than using this thing as a powerboat (that goes sideways)? All ideas are welcome?
brak is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 Old 09-28-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Did you buy this boat without a survey, sounds like it.

Were you active in the bottom appraisal and condition, scraping, painting?

I think you went to the yard, said "hey dudes I'm here". I don't believe you were educated enough to pay a professional for what you did not know but believed you did.

Got sticker shock from the people making an honest living and then freaked out. Not all yards are rip-offs.

Did you pay to replace the centerboard pennant?

Last edited by sailor50; 09-28-2010 at 09:37 PM.
sailor50 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 18 Old 09-28-2010 Thread Starter
Sea Slacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,789
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
I had a survey (didn't need one, but had one anyway). In any case centerboard was working fine when I bought the boat, during survey and opened and closed quite welll during trial sail. Survey predated the bottom paint work by precisely 3 days).

CB pennants are pretty much brand new, were recently replaced by PO (hence the ton of 5200 on cb trunk lid, PO liked things very firmly attached). I don't think they have to do anything with this issue, though.

I am not sure what the rest of your answer means, to be honest. I am looking for other ideas to solve the problem - if you have any, they would be appreciated. If you do not - thanks for your time
brak is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 18 Old 09-28-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Sounds like the problem is now in a bent trunk.
sailor50 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 18 Old 09-28-2010 Thread Starter
Sea Slacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,789
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailor50 View Post
Sounds like the problem is now in a bent trunk.
As far as I can see, the trunk is not bent, everything is straight and level (i.e. both trunk walls and cb itself).

The trunk is not "square", rather, it has a narrower area near the "root" of cb (built up lay-up on each side, as a kind of a "wedge", leaving very small clearance, perhaps 1/32" each side normally) designed to hold cb relatively tight when extended. Cb itself is also widest at the top. Since the clearance is now non-existant, cb is stuck (in closed position) at its widest point, where it came in full contact with trunk walls.
brak is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 18 Old 09-28-2010
Senior Member
 
mitiempo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,458
Thanks: 0
Thanked 91 Times in 82 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
How large is the hole the pennant travels in? Is there any way that it something, a metal rod perhaps, could be pushed against the centerboard with increasing force to try and get it to move? The jack idea makes sense to me, with something against the cabin overhead that is large enough to spread the load over a wide area.

Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
mitiempo is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 18 Old 09-28-2010
Tartan 27' owner
 
CalebD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,717
Thanks: 4
Thanked 105 Times in 97 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Dock
Do we even know what type and make of boat this is with the stuck center board?
I like the idea of using the low E string of a guitar to help clear the slot in the center board trunk though. Barring that a flat piece of metal might dislodge the offending high spots; something like an old metal yard stick.
If that fails then motoring around on the bay when there is some chop might just induce the board to become un-stuck. Make sure to loosen the pennant a little bit before motoring into the waves. You will know when it falls and if it doesn't then you have not lost anything, or you were not motoring in rough enough conditions to get it loose.
What kind of boat weighs 2000#'s that has a center board? Is this a MacGregor 26 or a Hunter 260 (extra zero added for emphasis)?
The board will go down again with the right encouragement.

"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CalebD is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 18 Old 09-29-2010
1984 O'Day 26 - Lazy Dog
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Quincy, MA
Posts: 28
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
how about getting out the mask/snorkel again, but also bring a hacksaw blade and gloves... run the hacksaw blade around the c/b slot, like loosening a cake from a pan. if the paint is what got it stuck in there, hopefully this would break the seal of the paint?
bacinmass is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 18 Old 09-29-2010 Thread Starter
Sea Slacker
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,789
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
The boat is Corsair F-24.

1. hacksaw blade won't fit (I tried that too, that goes into the "blade of the knife" category). There is just no distance between cb and trunk wall in the area that is stuck to fit any metal object. I.e. I can run a knife/blade etc around the cb until it gets to the raised "wedge" at which point there is nowhere to go. I was hoping guitar string would be thin enough to slice through where blades won't go.

2. I have full access to the top of cb - the trunk lid is removed inside the boat. Pennants are disconnected at this point, so they are neither in the way nor really do anything.

Motoring around and hoping for it to fall - may be, but since I would have to fully reinstall the trunk cover, I'd like to wait on that one, it's going to be a desperation measure

What about using a jack screw to push it from the top? I am torn between that being a great or a totally harebrained idea.
brak is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 18 Old 09-29-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
you say "the boat is new to you..."
perhaps there is a catch or other locking device that you haven't found yet...?
... previous owners modification maybe?
... perhaps something the boat yard put in to hold it up?
just thinking outside the box there ...

Beyond that, well your only option has to be a bigger hammer/lever - if the boat only weighs a ton then there can't be any real weight in the CB so bobing around in a seaway won't do ****.

reversing the jam effect of a ton weight is not so hard if you can get the leverage onto it.

... if you can access the housing that it slides into - clamping pressure for and aft will naturally open up the sides - not much but all you need is clearance

good luck
Bloke is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Centerboard Stuck solman55 Watkins 9 09-04-2012 10:20 AM
Stuck on the bottom! BubbleheadMd Seamanship & Navigation 5 12-30-2009 09:34 AM
VDO log stuck at 0.0 kredit Gear & Maintenance 1 04-20-2009 02:28 AM
Centerboard stuck? capterry Irwin 2 11-04-2006 07:49 PM
stuck! bestfriend Boat Review and Purchase Forum 8 10-21-2006 04:46 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome