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So I got my first boat... HELP!

It don't have a rudder and from what I've read I'm gonna need one

this is the boat, it's 21' long and has a retractable keel (there is a winch in the cabin that raises/lowers it)


This is where I imagine the rudder should be


from looking at pictures online, I figured I would need these bits to attache/use the rudder with


The next thing I need is the rudder itself. I couldn't find any mention of the boat I have anywhere online. It's listed on the registration as a "Classic Marine" boat, but there is no data plate or other name anywhere on the boat with the exception of the numbers stamped onto a strip of metal that is molded into the back of the hull. So How much rudder do I need above the transom and how much do I need protruding below the bottom of the boat? And how wide does it have to be? I know the thickness from the mounting brackets I have, but how much tapper is there from front to back?

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The numbers stamped into the transom plate will include a code for the builder and model and the date when the hull was built along with the hull number. If you could find out the model you might be able to find a similar boat and get the rudder dimensions.

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Model year and make will be needed for sure.


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Go to the rear of the boat, to starboard side. Read that number on the top of the transom and post the first few letters if you're not comfortable posting the whole thing. The letters at the beginning of your HULL NUMBER will identify the manufacturer of the boat.

If there's a shore power plug in the cockpit, there's most likely a plate next to it, which will ID the manufacturer.

How tall is the mast, and how long is the boat, as well as how wide?

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Cal?

If you have not yet found the model number yet. It looks like a Cal 21 to me. More pictures may help.
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It is a Clipper Marine 21. I don't know the year.
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Take my advice with a grain of salt, because I'm not a marine engineer, but I suspect a used rudder from any boat of roughly the same displacement and length will work- Catalina 22, Venture 21, San Juan 21, etc. but you might need a matching set gudgeons to mount it. If you have a huge budget and want a really awesome rudder, IdaSailor can make you a brand new one (idasailor.com).
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Go here for data on the boat including a line drawing.
CLIPPER MARINE 21 Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com

Clipper Marine boats are lightweight boats and are fun to sail.
Enjoy!
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Clipper Marine boats are lightweight boats and are fun to sail.
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Wow, only 1650lbs! That thing must do really well in light winds. Maybe a rudder from an 18 foot boat would be more appropriate than from other 21/22s?
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more pics...



It didn't have a hatch cover so I made one. I also sanded and stained the rest of the wood handles and such (thick coat of urethane afterward)


it would in fact appear to be a Clipper Marine 21...
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