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Anyone know a source for used roller furlings? I just bought a C & C 24, and want to set up for single handling. Looks like this would be a great help, but can't afford a new one.
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Anyone know a source for used roller furlings? I just bought a C & C 24, and want to set up for single handling. Looks like this would be a great help, but can't afford a new one.
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You may want to call around to riggers in your area. They may be able give you some good local suggestions. Who knows -- they may have suitable older units that other sailors have removed and replaced with newer units, or be able to tell you of folks who are thinking about replacing their furlers whom you can approach with an offer to buy.
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For that size boat you may want to stay with hanks instead of going to a furling system...I bought a Seafarer 24 earlier this year but have had to change the good 110 jib I had over to the luff-taped (splined)edge which cost $$$ and also get a UV sun cover stitched on...$$$.....there was also a newer genoa that was still furled when I bought her that had been ruined by sitting on the forestay unprotected..Its been a bit of a hassle...almost wish she just had had a normal forestay and all the sails had been kept below but thats just wishful thinking...


I have also heard about roller furlers jamming but not sure how common this is... this can happen with hank-ons too but that is usually an easier fix....Regardless...trimming the stay sails with ease is nice though...new sails will be more expensive every time though due to the cost of luff tape and sun covers....you pay to play per usual...

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If you are daysailing. You can't beat the convenience of roller furling. Yes it is more money, but most people sail more often with a furler. It also depends on where you sail. An example on S.F Bay will need a lot of sail changes over the day, and expecially in summer. If you are where you need multiple sail changes. You will also want to add foam to the front of the sail for better reefing shape. A good furler is going to br trouble free. Even those who race around the world below the capes use them........i2f

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A furler is on my list of things. The PO used to single hand it though with hanked on, I guess he just locked the tiller and went forward to gather it all up.

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Sailed my international folkboat singlehanded all summer with hank-ons. Was never a problem going forward to hoist/bring down sails. Halyards were at the mast, if led back to the cockpit this would be even easier.

Picked up a ranger 28 this fall. It has a new furler and 155 headsail on it. Also came with a nice collection of hanked sails and the original headstay. I'm thinking about ditching the furler and going back to the hanks, but i haven't sailed the boat either way yet.

I don't like the idea of extra weight aloft and being stuck with a 155% all the time. Yes it has the foam luff, but you can only shorten so much before the shape goes to hell. I also don't see how partially rolling a sail isn't transfering loads somewhere they shouldn't be and damaging the sail.

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Memopad,

That's a large sail to furl if you need 100%. How about a second sail, and smaller? I don't know your sailing area, but on S.F. Bay it can easily be 25knots, and higher. In the summer there can be 4-6 sail changes if you are out all day. Take into consideration the traffic. That a lot of what if's, and work for a single hander.........i2f

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....Picked up a ranger 28 this fall. It has a new furler and 155 headsail on it. Also came with a nice collection of hanked sails and the original headstay. I'm thinking about ditching the furler and going back to the hanks, but i haven't sailed the boat either way yet.
You'll mostly enjoy the convenience of a furler... but you're right, rolling up a 155 is not the best thing to do

Since you have a good selection of hank sails, I'd suggest you get the working jib modified to fit the furler.. a couple of hundred bucks oughta do it, then when the wind's forecast to blow change down to the smaller sail.

Ranger 28's a fun boat - just use caution and good judgement flying the kite in a breeze....

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Sailing conditions will be everything from light winds, perfect 10-12kts and flat water, to 25+kts and waves. The hanked sails include a storm jib, 100%, a couple 135's, several 150's in dacron and mylar, and a couple 170's. One of the 170's is i think mylar and has a pretty big delaminated area in it. All of the dacron sails appear to be in great shape.

I was thinking about having them converted using luff tape, wasn't sure it was worth the money though. If there was a local sail loft i'd consider it further, but closest one is probably a few hundred miles away.

Crazy thought: is it possible to use small slugs where the hanks go and fit the slugs into the foil track?

And thanks about the word of caution I don't have alot of symetrical spin experience on boats this size so there will be plenty of caution. I have a .75oz spin and a 1.5oz spin that is cut a little smaller for the boat. Really looking forward to playing with them.

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Memopad,

That's a large sail to furl if you need 100%. How about a second sail, and smaller? I don't know your sailing area, but on S.F. Bay it can easily be 25knots, and higher. In the summer there can be 4-6 sail changes if you are out all day. Take into consideration the traffic. That a lot of what if's, and work for a single hander.........i2f
Honestly, other than during 'tour the Bay' type races, I can't ever remember changing headsails more than once on a boat.... #3 for the summer, #1 for the winter..
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