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Self steering vane for a 24' boat

I am looking to install a small self steering vane on my 24' cutter, her cruising weight is about 8k lbs. I should state that I'm poor and don't use credit. Are there any good recommendations for a solution to this. I had planned on setting out in 2.5 years but am at the point where every single day being stuck in this society puts me closer to putting a bullet in my skull. I need out now. Please help. :0)
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I am looking to install a small self steering vane on my 24' cutter, her cruising weight is about 8k lbs. I should state that I'm poor and don't use credit. Are there any good recommendations for a solution to this. I had planned on setting out in 2.5 years but am at the point where every single day being stuck in this society puts me closer to putting a bullet in my skull. I need out now. Please help. :0)
You could consider building one, I am not sure it is a good or bad idea but the effort might prevent you from putting a bullet in your head
Self-Steering Gear -- Build a trim-tab based wind vane or autopilot self-steering system for your boat

On a more serious note below is a link to a forum dedicated to the topic, every so often people list used one's for sale.
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There are sheet to tiller options.Can not remember who but someone will.Tiller piolots are not very expensive.marc
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Hey

I have played with teh sheet to tiller method described here
Sheet-to-Tiller Self Steering

Day sailing only, it is fun and does work but to use it exclusively for extended off shore work, I don't know?

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Don't waste the bullet going to sea in a 24' boat should do it Just kidding. I bought a used aries vane for 100.00 and repaired it myself for 30 bucks in parts. I think making your own is not worth the trouble or expense with that size boat most any gear will work just keep your ear to the ground and put the word out and it will show up in your time frame. Good luck with the adventure I have felt the same way many times well, not the bullet part
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At the absolute worst, you can pick up a "tiller tamer" from any chandlery for just $30.00 bucks.

Tiller Tamer

Obviously, not a substitute for keeping a proper watch, etc. but certainly useful for freeing your hands to grab a drink, eat a sandwich or go forward to make adjustments to sails or whatever.
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The home-made unit shown at the mindspring link should work fine on the Roo. You may have some fun fitting it around your rudder, but nothing insurmountable. I would recommend looking around that site as there's a picture of one that was done in copper tubing that looks nice as well.

Been following your blog for quite some time now.

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I have helped build a rudder hung trim type windvane like the one shown in this article linked below.
http://www.sailsarana.com/selfsteeri...trim%20tab.pdf

It seemed to work fine on most points of sail (except deep reeches and runs) and in most windspeeds. There were subtle and not so subtle differences in our design and frankly ours was much cruder than the one that this article might suggest. I would expect that the one in the article would probably work better and more precisely than ours but would have cost a lot more to build.

Of course this type of rudder mounted trim tab only works on boats with outboard rudders.

We used a horizontal shaft windvane since it generated more force than a vertical or angled axis vane and we hoped was easier to build. The only short comings were that horizontal axis vanes tend to be less sensitive, and need to be perfectly balanced and it would be thrown around a little more than ideal in a chop. If I had to build one again, I would do a slightly angles axis vane.

We used mostly salvaged materials; it just takes some ingenuity. The one that I worked on used light dacron line as the link between the vane and the rudder. The pulleys that the line passed over were plastic belt pulleys from a washing machine or dryer. Frankly some of the parts probably were not the best choice like the copper grounding rod that we found in a junk yard (easy to machine but corroded quickly). For us, the hardest part was coming up with low friction bearings.

I am not sure I'd want to cross an ocean this way, but it worked well for shorter range cruising and the parts were almost free.
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Nice

Ahh, thank you all, I will dig into all the links and see where I get. I should have mentioned that I have a stern hung rudder and a very balanced boat. I have used sheet to tiller but always seem to be tripping over it. A
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