Barient-20 ST Winch question and maintenance.. - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 11-25-2010
TintedChrome's Avatar
Underwater Basket Weaver
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
TintedChrome is on a distinguished road
Barient-20 ST Winch question and maintenance..

So one of the things I need to address this winter is maintenance for my winches.. So off they come. I have two Barient 20's, and a Barlow 16P. I've managed to find dis-assembly info and maintenance on the 16, but can't seem to find out how to remove the drum on the 20's.

There's a ton of Barient/Barlow/Lewmar service manuals at Winch Service Manuals , including ones for a Barient-20 from 69.. But I don't have the same #20. Mine has four screws in the drum and I'm unsure as to the dis-assembly..

Now, I'm assuming that's the retaining ring on the outside of the spindle that I need to pry off with a screwdriver (left side of the spindle in the pic) as per the instructions for the 1969 Barient..

But.. going back to the 4 spring loaded (i think) screws half covered by the cap. What are these for? Tension adjustments or something like that?

Anyone have any more info on these things? I've tried searching sailnet, and google, and while it's likely I'm messing up the search terms, I'm not finding anything useful for this particular winch. I'm just not comfortable attempting to open up the #20's without a better understanding of how it's going to come apart.

I believe the winches are original to the boat, so they're from 75-76 or so.
Attached Thumbnails
Barient-20 ST Winch question and maintenance..-winch.jpg  
__________________
s/v Tinou
1976 Northstar Farr 727
Hull #37

I can't imagine mastering the skills involved here without a clearer understanding of who's going to be impressed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 11-25-2010
billyruffn's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,285
Thanks: 5
Thanked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 11
billyruffn will become famous soon enough
I've got 9 Barients on the boat, but not this one, so I can't offer specific advice. My guess is that you're right about the retaining ring coming off first. My experience with Barients is that they are pretty straight forward in design. I've had mine broken down many times (usually once a year) for cleaning and servicing.

Take it step at a time and take some pictures if you're uncertain about how things will go back to gether.

Re the screws, my guess is they're an adjustment for the self-tailing.

You can get spare parts (but will pay dearly for them) from an outfit in Australia. See HUTTON-ARCO Yacht Winches I've had difficulty reaching them via email. Give them a call, if they don't answer the email. (Evening east coast time is mid day next day in Oz).

Good luck.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 11-26-2010
TintedChrome's Avatar
Underwater Basket Weaver
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
TintedChrome is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the advice.. I guess I'm going to have to wing it.
__________________
s/v Tinou
1976 Northstar Farr 727
Hull #37

I can't imagine mastering the skills involved here without a clearer understanding of who's going to be impressed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 11-28-2010
with Robin Lee dreams
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 42
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
coreywoodworking is on a distinguished road
The Columbia website has great data on winches, including diagrams of several variations of Barients.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 11-29-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Florida
Posts: 201
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 6
oceanscapt is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to oceanscapt
Try this site:

hxxp://l-36.com/winches/winches3.htm

I gotta tell you, finding a Barient 20 winch site wasn't easy. Not much on them (maybe because they're late 60s vintage), so I hope this helps.
__________________
Capt. Douglas Abbott
USCG/MCA IV/C.I./M.I. 500-ton Oceans
PADI MSDT

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 11-30-2010
TintedChrome's Avatar
Underwater Basket Weaver
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 109
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
TintedChrome is on a distinguished road
Yeah, it's tough finding info on these suckers.. It turns out the spring loaded screws on the top of the drum are for the self-adjusting self tailing mechanism, so I should be able to pull apart for maintenance without touching them.

For anyone else looking for Barient #20 ST info, it appears that the 23ST is very similar and that's the guide I'm going to attempt to be following.
__________________
s/v Tinou
1976 Northstar Farr 727
Hull #37

I can't imagine mastering the skills involved here without a clearer understanding of who's going to be impressed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 11-30-2010
Memopad's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Marquette, MI
Posts: 54
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Memopad is on a distinguished road
There should be a ring clip at the top surrounding the receptacle for the winch handle. I use a thin flat-blade screwdriver to pick up a corner of the wring and then peel it off. After that ring clip is off the drum will pull straight up and off. Really quick and easy.

Actually i can see the end of the clip in your photo. Its just about directly in from the A in "self-tailing" on the cover.

Once you pull the cover off (not sure what the different parts of a winch are called) the bearing will either come off with it, or stay on the spindle. Just be aware that it can fall out of the cover, dont' let it fall overboard. Looks similar to a wheel bearing on a car.
__________________
1978 Ranger 28 and a fleet of Mini 12's.
Ropes and rigging and splicing, oh my!

Last edited by Memopad; 11-30-2010 at 12:32 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Barient 22-39 Winch nickmerc Gear & Maintenance 15 10-03-2012 10:43 PM
Servicing Barient 23 Winch L124C Gear & Maintenance 11 01-16-2011 06:41 PM
Looking for a Barient 22 winch drum patrickrea Gear & Maintenance 0 06-21-2009 09:33 AM
Pre 79 Barient 23 winch diagram? WhatTheFoley Gear & Maintenance 3 05-20-2009 01:37 PM
Barient winch anderbra Gear & Maintenance 10 06-09-2008 01:53 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:28 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.