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Barient-20 ST Winch question and maintenance..

So one of the things I need to address this winter is maintenance for my winches.. So off they come. I have two Barient 20's, and a Barlow 16P. I've managed to find dis-assembly info and maintenance on the 16, but can't seem to find out how to remove the drum on the 20's.

There's a ton of Barient/Barlow/Lewmar service manuals at Winch Service Manuals , including ones for a Barient-20 from 69.. But I don't have the same #20. Mine has four screws in the drum and I'm unsure as to the dis-assembly..

Now, I'm assuming that's the retaining ring on the outside of the spindle that I need to pry off with a screwdriver (left side of the spindle in the pic) as per the instructions for the 1969 Barient..

But.. going back to the 4 spring loaded (i think) screws half covered by the cap. What are these for? Tension adjustments or something like that?

Anyone have any more info on these things? I've tried searching sailnet, and google, and while it's likely I'm messing up the search terms, I'm not finding anything useful for this particular winch. I'm just not comfortable attempting to open up the #20's without a better understanding of how it's going to come apart.

I believe the winches are original to the boat, so they're from 75-76 or so.
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I've got 9 Barients on the boat, but not this one, so I can't offer specific advice. My guess is that you're right about the retaining ring coming off first. My experience with Barients is that they are pretty straight forward in design. I've had mine broken down many times (usually once a year) for cleaning and servicing.

Take it step at a time and take some pictures if you're uncertain about how things will go back to gether.

Re the screws, my guess is they're an adjustment for the self-tailing.

You can get spare parts (but will pay dearly for them) from an outfit in Australia. See HUTTON-ARCO Yacht Winches I've had difficulty reaching them via email. Give them a call, if they don't answer the email. (Evening east coast time is mid day next day in Oz).

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Thanks for the advice.. I guess I'm going to have to wing it.

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The Columbia website has great data on winches, including diagrams of several variations of Barients.
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Try this site:

hxxp://l-36.com/winches/winches3.htm

I gotta tell you, finding a Barient 20 winch site wasn't easy. Not much on them (maybe because they're late 60s vintage), so I hope this helps.

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Yeah, it's tough finding info on these suckers.. It turns out the spring loaded screws on the top of the drum are for the self-adjusting self tailing mechanism, so I should be able to pull apart for maintenance without touching them.

For anyone else looking for Barient #20 ST info, it appears that the 23ST is very similar and that's the guide I'm going to attempt to be following.

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There should be a ring clip at the top surrounding the receptacle for the winch handle. I use a thin flat-blade screwdriver to pick up a corner of the wring and then peel it off. After that ring clip is off the drum will pull straight up and off. Really quick and easy.

Actually i can see the end of the clip in your photo. Its just about directly in from the A in "self-tailing" on the cover.

Once you pull the cover off (not sure what the different parts of a winch are called) the bearing will either come off with it, or stay on the spindle. Just be aware that it can fall out of the cover, dont' let it fall overboard. Looks similar to a wheel bearing on a car.

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