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Which outboard for my Montgomery 17?
Just brought home my dream boat today, a 1983 Montgomery 17. I have been looking and looking for this exact boat to come up for sale in my area for over a year and I finally snagged one although it was 9 hrs away but it was well worth it.
http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1301118523
I bought this thing for $2600 with everything except an outboard. The previous owner had big plans for the boat but was unable to use it. He had spent a small fortune at West Marine on alot of great gear that I would have needed to buy, needless to say most of it is still in it's packaging. I totalled up the new stuff today from WM's prices and it came out to be right at $2400 worth of quality gear. Talk about a deal........
Anyways, I need to buy an outboard and I am looking at Mercury's and Yamahas right now. I believe I want a 4hp, four stroke of course, with an alternator and a long shaft. The Mercury is $1240 and the Yamy $1100. Honda's just seem to expensive.
I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on the two?
How about customer service and avaliability of spare parts for the two?
Cant decide which one is best.........
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03-26-2011
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Tough one. the only experience I've had with Yamaha is with their offroad bikes ( many yrs ) quality is up there, maybe more so than Merc,
Parts may be an issue soon no matter what OB ya get with the problems Japan is having.
I'd probably go with Yamaha cuz I would need parts less often
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Cool boat BTW, congrats
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03-26-2011
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Yamaha makes a quality outboard engine. We commute daily by boat into town and run a Yamaha 40 on our 14 ft run about. Most of the daily commuters at the marina running outboards use Yamaha's. They have a good dealer network and also make a high thrust version of some of their engines specifically for sailboats. We also run a Yamaha 9.9 hp on our Catalina 27. I cant speak to the Mercury's
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The April Yachting Monthly, a UK magazine, has a review of 5 HP outboard motors, and rated Suzuki "best on test." However, the test did not include Mercury.
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03-26-2011
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Such a small outboard in 4-stroke is not what I would recommend in general.
If keeping it on the transom permanently, perhaps, but if as 'stow away' the old 2-strokes have less risks of oil spill. Even vibration may be a problem running at full throttle.
Charging, if you manage to find one with charging is less than a joke, a 60W solar panel will probably do better even a winter night!
I would have considered a small Tohatsu provided you have a decent dealer in vicinity.
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Sweet, I used to have a 1981 Monty 17. Mine had an old Johnson Sailhorse 6 hp. It was more than adequate.
I hope to buy another Monty some day, You'll like that little boat,
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03-26-2011
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Thank you all for the replies.
haffiman,
I have no experience with the output of an alternator on such a small motor. It can be totally pointless, or can it?
The alternator that comes on it puts out 6A at wide open throttle. They do have an option for a high output alternator though, maybe I should go that route? I will have a solar panel of some sort but I figured an alternator on the motor would be another reliable source of power, I am not asking for much at all though because the boat will have minimal power needs.
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Outboard alternators is not intended for charging for consumption. mainly to 'top-up' a starter battery. A small solar that may be connected even when you do not use the boat is far better. A 30-40 W (3 Amp) connected even when you do not use the boat will keep a 60-90AH battery reasonably well charged, an outboard will have to run around 8-10 hrs/day to give the same charge. The only 'advantage' may be that together, both solar and outboard, may be able to start charging a 'dead' battery.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perithead
Just brought home my dream boat today, a 1983 Montgomery 17....
Anyways, I need to buy an outboard and I am looking at Mercury's and Yamahas right now....
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Don't even think about a Mercury...don't even think about thinking about a Mercury...
And in any case, buy from a good outboard dealer that has maintenance and repair facilities on site.
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