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The weight of the Delta will strain my back, what is the recomended weight for the Manson?
The first criteria should be not what you can lift but what will safely hold the boat in a good blow. If what is needed exceeds you physical capabilities then maybe it is time to consider a windlass manual or powered.

In addition to the info you get here, it would also be prudent to fully explore the websites of a variety of anchor manufatures, search for anchor reviews, look at West Marine's anchor reviews and articles and Mainsail's youtube vidios of anchors setting.

Without checking the Delta website I think the 35 lb Delta might be on the lite side for your boat. Pound for pound the Fortress will give you the most holding power but will have resetting issues. I use a 33 lb Rocna with all chain rode as my primary on an 11,000 lb boat. A fortress (i think it is about 12 lb's is also on the bow as a spare / lunch hook.
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If a Danforth doesn't fit will a Fortress or a Rocna with a hoop? Maybe a Spade, he will have to web search for dimentional drawings of different styles and construct carboard mockups to determine what will work. There is no easy answer he may have to change bow roller or add windless to secure his investment.
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I am also in the market for a new anchor for my little 17'er. I plan on doing some week long and longer cruising on her so I want an anchor that will hold me when I am swinging 360 degrees and in a heck of a blow.

I found this video a few years ago and it sold me on a Rocna anchor.........

Although it is about $210 for an 13lbs galvanized anchor for my little boat, piece of mind is priceless.

I watched this video, is it me or did I detect a bit of a smell? It sure looked to me like all the anchors were shown tested on dry sand. Except the Rocna, which clearly was on sloppy wet sand. The Rocna might be a great anchor, but this test looks fixed to me.

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If you go to mainesails website I believe he has a link to a video where he basicly got the same results with the Rocna.
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Video is BS, look at the speed they are trying to set those other anchors. I am not gonna get involved into whose anchor is bigger, but I will say that test in the video is skewed at best!
FWIW I used a delta 22 with 30ft of 3/8 chain and about 8:1 scope in 20-25 knot winds, higher gusts I'm sure, twice on my 30ft Alberg and because of this forum I did not sleep at all! Constantly worried about dragging. the wind was howling and the boat rocking and there I was staring at the GPS ever 5-15min..... the end result both times was the boat did not move more an inch! I do think for piece of mind I will pick up the next larger size delta. they seem to work for me. And the price seems reasonable.
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Has anyone seen an Ultra in use? It appears to me it has excellent holding power and sets fairly quick.
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I have often wondered if that represents reality when anchoring. A totally flat to the bottom chain pull...
Dive on a setting anchor and that's what you'll see. Until the anchor "bites" there is nothing to lift the chain off the bottom.

Here's a CQR at 2:1 and 4:1 on hard intertidal sand. Even at 2:1 scope the shank is still pretty flat to the bottom so 5:1, 7:1 or beyond won't make a difference if even at 2:1 the shank mostly flat to the seabed.

YouTube - CQR Hard Sand Setting 2:1 Scope

YouTube - CQR Setting In Hard Sand 4:1 Scope

And an underwater video of an anchor setting. The chain is flat to the seabed until it bites. Once a load is applied the anchor chain straightens out..
YouTube - Manson Supreme Anchor: Underwater footage of instant setting nature
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Again, I have to wonder if a 75lb CQR behaves the same as a 35lb. I'm not sure either way, but think these tests are not complete.
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