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hmmm .. if I can read between the spaces ... Marty wants bigger equipment down below and a smaller bit on the bow ... sounds fair..

What Denby wants is anyone's guess ... I just try and humour the man ..

Fast reckons that is how he copes with me so I'm trying it out.

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oh dear oh me oh my! Master denby, we needs to work on fuzzy en learned to ignoramous! or some such talk and thought......OUCH.....dang nabbit, need to quit thinking.......so anyway..... where wasn't I? oh yeah, mr muderator TD needs to learned to ignoramous...........

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oh dear oh me oh my! Master denby, we needs to work on fuzzy en learned to ignoramous! or some such talk and thought......OUCH.....dang nabbit, need to quit thinking.......so anyway..... where wasn't I? oh yeah, mr muderator TD needs to learned to ignoramous...........

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hmmm .. if I can read between the spaces ... Marty wants bigger equipment down below and a smaller bit on the bow ... sounds fair..

What Denby wants is anyone's guess ... I just try and humour the man ..

Fast reckons that is how he copes with me so I'm trying it out
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I still do not have an answer, must be getting ignored!

gotta luv all you ignoramous's!

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To blt2ski's question about aluminum danforths: Not particularly good on weedy bottoms, just like regular danforths, except their lighter weight makes it worse. They work pretty well on a sandy bottom--as well or better than any other anchor I've used.

I've used an FX-11 as the primary anchor on my 23 power boat for the past 20 years and never had a problem.

I carry an FX-16 as a third anchor on my 35' sloop, but haven't used it much--primarily as a stern anchor, as it's easier to deploy than a heavier danforth I carry to back up my primary anchor (CQR).

The FX-16 weighs about 10 lbs and according to Fortress is more than adequate for normal use on a boat of your size. You will want to follow their recommendation to set the anchor slowly and back down to confirm your set.
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fallard,

Thank for info. I would probably go with an 11, not sure of the wt, only from a keep the size to a minimum. BUT< the 16 might be a bit better way to go with out chain as the something to get me stopped if need be Then pull the bruce out from below for the really hold me need! Then again, all I am trying to meet is minimum race spec, which IIRC is about 4-7 lbs. Too bad bruce or equals are not made in Aluminum..........

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blt2ski: If you are trying to stop the boat, the Fortress might not be for you. They tend to skip if you are moving too quickly. Also, you might have problems setting it if you don't have some chain--maybe 6 ft as a minimum-- to hold the shank down.

If you are dead set on not using chain, how about a kellet? You could clip it on your rode when anchoring and otherwise stow it below. It may not be recognized anchoring practice, but it would be better than having nothing other than the nylon rode.

Also,as long as you have your Bruce available, you might find the FX-11 (7 lbs) adequate for your purposes.
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The small amount of chain would work, I have toyed with switching the 16' I have to a lighter anchor for race rule purposes, along with lighter line, maybe 3/8 vs the 5/8 I have. Then getting 30 or so feet one or two upsized from what I have for when I want to ANCHOR as one says. ie overnight etc. the 11 may work for the purpose/requirement I have in mind. Otherwise, most around puget sound where I am seem to use a bruce/plow typed anchor over danforths. This is NOT ment to get me thru a hurricane etc! For that, yes I need a BIGGER anchor, more chains etc.

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To ease the chore of hauling any size anchor you may choose, try a snatch block to fairlead the anchor rode to a primary winch. When the load gets greater than you can manually hual, crank away. This method keeps the fordeck clear and reduces weight forward also. I replaced a CQR with a Manson Supreme and it holds great in all conditions I have encountered, including mud and sand.
I have a 35# CQR and just bought the 35# Manson Supreme last friday as a back-up anchor. The Manson looks really well built. All edges are ground down and nothing sharp. Can handle with bare hands no problem- same with the CQR. The only problem I see with the Manson, when I put it on my bow roller it wants to roll off into the ocean like I am anchoring. My CQR has a notch so that when it is fully on the bow roller it will not roll off (I do tie it off prior to sailing as a large lurch of the boat could send it rolling off). But the Manson wants to roll off at all times. So then I need to manually hold the anchor on the bow roller while I try to tie it off. One slip and the anchor and chain is into the water.

Is this normal or am I doing somthing wrong? I do not use a windlass- manuall anchor and retreve.
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