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deniseO30 05-02-2011 10:41 AM

single vs continuous line furling
 
I've never used one of those with the large wheel continuous loop line furling systems. I thought, they are pretty slick and have allot less effort to roll in the head sail. it's seems they are not so slick for reefing the sail and only favored by racers?
I've a older Hood model available to me if I want it for nothing, I'm just wondering if it's worth the what I'd be getting it for. :rolleyes: Thoughts?

jackdale 05-02-2011 11:25 AM

I have used the Hood system. Not a big fan; you have to maintain tension on the lazy portion of the line to get a proper furl. That usually means a two person job.

tommays 05-02-2011 11:27 AM

I think most people here want some abilty to reef the headsail VS just furling it

arf145 05-02-2011 02:07 PM

I have an old Hood furler on my 28 footer and we do reef with it. I would much rather have a single line furler though. We head up to reduce pressure and I've never had it slip even when mainly pulling on the loaded side. But that loop hanging around the cockpit is just looking to cause mischief.

ScubaSailorLA 05-02-2011 06:13 PM

Some tension has to be kept on the slack portion of the continuous loop to keep it from jamming in the blocks. As was stated above, it makes furling the sail a two person job. I just replaced the old Hood furler on my O'Day 31, with a new Harken. I love the new one. I suppose if someone were giving me a continuous line system, I might consider it if it were the only way i could get a furler. Otherwise, I would avoid it.

PalmettoSailor 05-02-2011 08:58 PM

I removed one from my C36. I wouldn't have one even if it was free. There used to be a conversion drum available, but as of about a year ago they only offer a credit. You might see hoe the money would work out. I cose to go with a Profurl and I'm much happier with it than the Hood unit.

JimsCAL 05-02-2011 11:09 PM

I've seen too many sails unfurl in a storm while on a mooring as the line slipped on the drum from the vibration and shaking, resulting in major sail damage. One guy in my club has taken to raising a sock over his furled genny to avoid this from happening (again). I wouldn't take one for free.

Omatako 05-03-2011 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arf145 (Post 726094)
I have an old Hood furler on my 28 footer and we do reef with it. I would much rather have a single line furler though. We head up to reduce pressure and I've never had it slip even when mainly pulling on the loaded side. But that loop hanging around the cockpit is just looking to cause mischief.

I've not used one of the continuous line furlers so this is just speculation on my part but I do believe that "reefing" with one is not a dependable situation to be in, you should either have the sail all the way out or all the way in. It seems to me there is insufficient tension on the line to hold a sail for a indeterminate time under pressure. As I say, just a detached observation, not an informed opinion.

If my powers of observation are any good, I would say these are best suited to storm sails or sails on a removable stay (code 0's, gennakers, etc) where the sail is furled and the stay is dropped to the deck and put away with the sail and furler in one. If you have the footage, watch how the crew managed their head-sails on those monster multis in the last America's Cup racing.

deniseO30 05-03-2011 09:09 AM

thank you all! Decision made.. I'll save my pennies for a new single line furler.

mr-canada 07-11-2013 01:14 PM

Re: single vs continuous line furling
 
I disagree with all of you. I have a Hood 705 line drive continuous furler and I honestly can't understand why all furlers arent designed in this way.

A single person can furl or unfurl the sail as nobody needs to touch the sheets in either direction. You can reef (I have done so many times) all you need is a clamcleat somewhere on the deck where the continuous line is run. I have two, one for either direction, although there is really a small amount of load on the actual furling line, even when sailing with the rag reefed as most of the tension is taken up by the forestay itself as it should be.

With regards to the continuous loop lying around on the deck and in the cockpit, if you have your LD furling line configured in this manner it is done entirely wrong. The original kit from Hood includes a variety of peices to run the line to the cockpit using attachments to the stanchions. It is best practice to have a small wheel attached to the deck where the continuous loop ends so you can maintain a small amount of tension. The furling line will jam up in the furler's teeth and slip around if it is too loose, like many other lines on the boat.

I often sail with just a 150 genoa because the furler makes it so easy to partially furl and I dont have to hassle around with the main. This furler makes going out and coming back in so easy that it's a one person job even when I have capable crew.

Proper setup is key as with any peice of hardware on the boat. If you have one of these set up in a half-baked manner you will get half-baked performance which can be dangerous on the water.

I chatted with a rigger asking why most people had single line furler systems. He flat out told me that it was because most people who ended up with these furlers didn't install the neccesary deck hardware and they found it difficult to reef. He looked at my installation and said that was the textbook way that this furler should be installed with those two clamcleats, the stanchion hardware and the wheel at the end.


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