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A couple of strong, heavy guys pulling a light kid up the mast? What could go wrong? The two guys might total 600 pounds, so when the 150 pound kid gets four feet up from them, his leverage is equal to theirs. Another foot, and he outleverages them by 150 pounds. Up he goes. Someone's (doesn't matter whose) weight goes off-center, and suddenly, that's 150 foot/pounds multiplied by each foot of height heeling the boat over. Everybody scrambles to keep the boat upright, and overcorrects, so the boat capsizes to the opposite side, with the mast hitting the kid on the head (he's attached to it!), possibly knocking him out or cracking his skull.
Everybody goes swimming. You still haven't reeved the jib halyard.

Pulling the boat over by the main halyard and having someone climb a steipladder that you've brought down to the dock is starting to look a LOT smarter.
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The best and easiest idea heard here so far is to use the main halyard to pull the mast down to someone. Find a high dock (or a bridge) and pull on the main halyard to heel the boat to you. I am an inveterate mast climber (and I used to own a Rhodes 19) and I would never consider for a second going up that mast. Unless you are trying to get rid of your son - a sentiment I can understand if he's a teenager - use him as a counterweight to heel the mast but don't send him up it. His mother would never forgive you.
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I agree - unstep the mast - not worth the potential injury / damage to people and or the boat.

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Surely a 19ft boat is easy to careen (pull the mast down on a halyard). That's not much bigger than a large sailing dingy.

Don't want to sound insulting or anything (about the size of the boat) but if the boat is alongside where there is a little space, just pull it over. That can;t be hard.
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Heel the mast over by using the halyard until you can reach it with a step ladder. When doing this, take the dock lines on the side near your ladder and run them under the boat, and cleat them on the far side of the boat.

That will make it easier to heel -- the docklines will be working for you instead of against you.

Did this with my Victory 21, years ago. (With a fixed 800 pound keel, I used a step ladder on top of an adjacent boathouse. That keel just didn't allow much heeling.)

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Heel the mast over by using the halyard until you can reach it with a step ladder. When doing this, take the dock lines on the side near your ladder and run them under the boat, and cleat them on the far side of the boat.

That will make it easier to heel -- the docklines will be working for you instead of against you.

Did this with my Victory 21, years ago. (With a fixed 800 pound keel, I used a step ladder on top of an adjacent boathouse. That keel just didn't allow much heeling.)

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The votes are in - equal for heeling or unstepping the mast. I saw nobody liking the idea of hoisting a boy up the mast.

I agree with the other posters. PaulK provided an excellent explanation of the likely outcome. 160lbs - even on a short mast - would provide massive leverage. You *may* pull it off, but a slight gust of wind - the smallest ripple - and she'd roll. Not worth the risk.

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New here so forgive the intrusion:I have used a step ladder with a yoke lashed to the top end that centered on the mast and the feet lashed to the toe rails.
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New here so forgive the intrusion:I have used a step ladder with a yoke lashed to the top end that centered on the mast and the feet lashed to the toe rails.
Unfortunately the moment of effort at the top of the mast remains the same irrespective of how you got up there.
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Ah, I see, not an issue of getting up there put heeling over one up. Apologies.
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