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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

The handrails were close to the same color before we took them down to bare wood. But the rails are totally different after we apply the first coat of farnish. Initially we put epoxy on both rails and one was a beautiful golder amber and the other was a dark brown (the entire rail).
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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

Sounds like old growth and new (farmed) teak Usually a woodworker would match the stock for a project. Brown usually comes from Burma or stolen from parks in Thailand The colourful grain is usually young wood and is grown all over.Can be gold to green.Several sub species too. Then there is wood that just looks sort of like teak but without the oil and silica.Dye or stain applied by artist helps the matching. poxy probably doesn't.
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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

Has anyone tried Minwax's spar varnish?
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Has anyone tried Minwax's spar varnish?
I have and it's OK. But I don't think it's a good way to save money, considering the time involved in varnishing. So now I use Pettit 2015 Flagship varnish. It's not cheap but so what.

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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

One of my woodworking rags ran a test on finishes. Epiphanies came out on top of the finishes they tried (which did not include the Pettit).

Downside is the Epiphanies is about 50 bucks a quart and they recommend 7 coats.


To stay on top of it, I would wet sand the original finish with 220. Use a soft bristle brush and a mild detergent to clean the wood after sanding. Clear water from a hose and the soft brush again to remove any contaminates, let dry. Wipe the wood down one last time with mineral spirits, then apply the finish as directed.

Cutting the finish 50/50 with mineral spirits will give you a wipe-on consistency, use a soft, clean rag instead of a brush and avoid the chance of brush marks if you don’t have the knack for using one.
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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

Jamestown Distributors is selling an Epifanes spar varnish kit of 2 quarts (well, 2 litres actually), brushes, stirrers, and pails for $60 right now.

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There is probably a better way. But yes, just lightly sand with a very fine grit sandpaper. Wipe the area thoroughly and apply another coat of varnish.

I'd agree with this. I believe the recommended grit was 220 to 340 (or whatever) but I would go with the finer grit sandpaper first. 220 grit seemed to take too much off for my preference. (unless you have some major sags in the varnish I guess)

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Just took handrails on Catalina 30 down to bare wood. When applying varnish there are two very different colors. One a golden amber and one darker brown. Any suggestions on what I can do to get even color on both rails?

Not sure about that without a picture but it could be due to weathering on exposed teak as the varnish wears. There is a product that I can't recall now that will clean the damaged/dirty teak and restore it. You use it (of course) prior to varnishing and it is a two part system. Take a picture of the area and visit WM, show them what you're dealing with and they will help you out. That's what I did and it came out looking great.
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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

After a little research I was able to refresh my memory. There are various two-part systems available but I think they are mostly a mild acid, and a neutraliser.

Teak Cleaners

You could get the same effect with some acid and then some water :

Oxalic Acid (West Marine) - Teak Cleaners

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Re: Adding couple more layers of varnish

That's it, I think this is the one I used

Te Ka Teak Cleaner Kit (Travaco) - Teak Cleaners

A bit more expensive than the WM brand but the sales lady said it was a bit more potent too. I always over do it....

BTW that small quart size is all you need, goes a long way..

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