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First time on the water in our new (to us) boat

My wife and I recently got a Cal 2-27 and today was the first time we had a chance to get her out on the water. Both of us are more used to lighter, sportier, more responsive boats (no real experience in heavier pocket cruisers), but we were pleasantly surprised at how nimble it is under sail, also how little it heels.
We learned a few things about buying a used boat today though. First off, we are both used to outboards. This particular inboard has prop walk with a vengance. I literally had to lean standing on the tiller to keep on course at half throttle.
Secondly....dont go out and hoist sails on a used boat without carefully inspecting every part of the halyard shackles. Out jib shackle came loose (hanked jib, was fastened properly but I did not inspect it well, the keeper let loose and it came off.) Jib comes down on the deck in about 15 knots of wind, I am thinking the halyard came loose from the cleat but no, the halyard just let loose from the jib, and as it turns out now I have to go climb the mast on Sunday to get the wire halyard down from the masthead. I tried fishing it down with some tent poles but the mast is just too high.
Overall we are really happy with the boat, but we are both used to much smaller, lighter, racier boats, so this one is going to take some getting used to. It sails extremely well, and with both a 80% jib and full main up (being conservative first time out) it does quite well. we hit hull speed on a beam reach with this combination in about 10 kts of wind.
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Glad you are happy with the "new" boat.

The steering under power sounds extreme. Yes the typical inboard powered sailboat will need a little more attention under power to keep it on course, but what you describe is very unusual. Perhaps another 2-27 owner will chime in and indicate if this is normal for the boat.

You may be able to attach a coat hanger bent into a hook to another halyard and snag the jib halyard. Did that once on a Pearson 26 when that happened to me many years ago. If you go up the mast, make sure you fasten that halyard shackle a bit better!!
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That doesn't sound right at all! It's been decades since I was in a Cal but I don't remember the prop walk being that bad (except in reverse).

I'm wondering if the boat is incorrectly propped or if the prop is damaged. Did you feel vibration? Is the prop fixed, folding, or feathering? What did the surveyor say about it, if you had a survey done?
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If you have another halyard, try attaching one end near the top/middle of your boat hook and tie another long line at the handle. Raise the hook with the spinnaker halyard and use both lines to steer the hook.

I was able to get our genny halyard down in about 5 minutes using this setup.

Good luck
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halyard shackles

old racing trick. bicycle inner tubes are about the right diameter to stretch over snap/other shackles --- keeps them from releasing at embarassing moments --- otherwise, tape it shut before you hoist. goes for jib/spin sheets too.
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All of the honest sailors will admit to a halyard going up the mast. But generally only once, so it's good you've gotten that ritual out of the way!

I've found climbing to the spreaders with a surfcasting pole with a fishhook lashed to the end can work. The spreaders aren't high.
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That doesn't sound right at all! It's been decades since I was in a Cal but I don't remember the prop walk being that bad (except in reverse).

I'm wondering if the boat is incorrectly propped or if the prop is damaged. Did you feel vibration? Is the prop fixed, folding, or feathering? What did the surveyor say about it, if you had a survey done?
I am wondering too if it is a prop issue, but I only paid $4000 for the boat so I didn't bother with a survey. I inspected the big stuff closely, fully expecting needing to do work on the little stuff. I need to put winches and clutches on the cabin top, fairleads at the mast to lead the halyards back, cut down the tiller (it is huge, looks to be taken off a boat with a larger cockpit).
But the hull is in great condition, engine runs very well, and all the interior teak is in near perfect condition. I will sail it this summer and haul it out when winter comes and fix any prop issues.
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Sounds like someone put the huge tiller in to address the prop walk.

Could have a prop issue, or the rudder has a problem (bent shaft?) putting it out of balance.
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Don't know about the length of the tiller on a 2-27 but on my Cal 25 it reaches nearly to the cabin.
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Don't know about the length of the tiller on a 2-27 but on my Cal 25 it reaches nearly to the cabin.
Maybe the one on my boat is original too, it goes nearly to the forward end of the cockpit. Seems real large but I can see needing the leverage. There just isn't a whole lot information available on these boats so I can't do too much research into it.
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