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Here # 5 for the clove hitch,,,simple is better
+6 on the clove hitch. The hangers are a mistake. To divide the load I take a turn around the middle life line before tieing off on the upper line. Takes some of the weight off of the upper line while tieing.
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I don't love tying to the lifelines, as they are naturally on the same side as the open gate and sag. Can't be good for the lifeline either, but that's not an educated opinion, just gut. Don't like the look, but it is much easier to tie off at your knees than at your feet.
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Last year was our first year with our boat and I had the same concern trying to make it easier for my wife and family to hang fenders. I chose these from Seadog ( Manuf. # 327200-1 ) available at west marine. The product photo on west marines site shows them connected to the pulpit but there is an insert for connecting to life lines.

All you do is open the lever, place on life line, pull cord to adjust height of fender and close lever. Never had an issue using them, and the easy height adjustment was great for setting different heights for docks or rafting up.
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Tie them on, find a knot that works for you. Seamanship is slowly fading away.
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Believe it or not (knot), it took us the whole season to decide that all lines would be flaked instead of coiled from now on. And that a single loop would be backed through the top of the flake to keep it from uncoiling.

This type of discussion would be one of the small disadvantages to co-owning a boat. However, for our purposes, the benefits greatly outweigh the drawbacks.
Totally understand your situation. Yes, it is a small price to pay.
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Tie them on, find a knot that works for you. Seamanship is slowly fading away.
I get your point, but unless you are flying square sails with block and tackle, we've all evolved a bit.
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Let them tie whatever they want, then just go around afterwards and re-position/re-tie them.

Free.

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A few years ago, I was searching for a better solution just like you. All were just waste the money when the novelty died. I found you can beat a Clove Hitch Knot.

YouTube - ‪How To Tie a Clove Hitch Knot‬‏

Sorry, please don't shoot the messager. This is so easy, even the caveman can do it. It becomes a second nature
Forget the plastic and go with the clove hitch. I've never had one come loose.
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Unfortunately, our new marina is frowning upon permanently attaching fenders horizontally to the slip. If I were the Marina Manager, I would avoid my wife this weekend. She's not happy.
I assume the marina's reasoning is that they don't want people putting holes in their docks willy nilly? I can understand that. Be grateful you have a marina that cares. My marina doesn't care what you do, as long as they don't have to do it! I've seen professional fender systems that mount to the dock. Don't know how pricey they are, but maybe your marina would let you install one of those if you promise to leave it when you leave, thereby improving the slip. It would be worth a few hundred dollars to me not to hassle with fenders!

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I get your point, but unless you are flying square sails with block and tackle, we've all evolved a bit.
Yeahbut... investing in injection molded complex hydrocarbon clips because you can't be bothered to learn to tie a simple knot seems to be the wrong direction to evolve. Next thing you know, we'll be burning said hydrocarbons in heat engines when the wind fails us.
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