Genoa Rigging???

[tkawika]

Hello all,

I am new to sailing bigger boats (bigger than 20ft, lol), my previous experience have been on Hobies. About 7 months ago I purchased a Coronado 35 CC. I had some engine issues and painted the top deck and sides and the bottom and now the boat is ready to sail. We took it out this last weekend with a more experience sailor and he quickly noticed that some some stuff was missing. He said we were missing genoa blocks, but he didn’t know what type. I have done a bunch of research, but without any reference what the heck I am looking at, I have know idea. So here’s my question. What is the best way to rig my genoa? I found a few things from garhauer

Low Lead Cars
Garhauer Marine Hardware -2638426

or a combination of

Single Block w/ Adjustable Shackle
Garhauer Marine Hardware -2638427
Track Car Slides
Garhauer Marine Hardware -2638428

Here are some details and pictures.

Main Sail Luff = 34.6
Genoa Luff = 41.94 - 150% - Furling
1.25 “ Track - 87” in length (Port and Starboard)

Now, I know there is many ways to skin a cat, but I am trying to finish the interior also and really, really, don’t want to give up another kidney to pay for anything else. Any help would much appreciated and thank you in advance.

Thanks
T

[jfdubu]

TK, you have tracks mounted to the starboard toe rail, I assume the same track exisits on port but not shown. The lead car is what you want. Measure the track most likely 1.25" and make sure you order the right size car. They also should hace pin locks the lock the car into place on the track.

Nice job on the topside paint.
John

[fallard]

TK, it does appear that you have P & S tracks mounted aft of the cockpit. jfdubu's guess about the 1.25" size is probably good, but, like he says, measure and be sure. It looks like there are holes for the locking pin.

That said, it's a matter of picking style and price. Suggest you look at the twin lead style block, which is more forgiving about entry and exit angle for the genoa sheet. One example is shown at http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|2234|311658|311661&id=113302. West Marine has it too, for the same price. You may find it cheaper elsewhere.

May all your boating problems be this simple!

[tkawika]

Hey guys thanks for the advice. Thanks John for the topside compliment, I would like to take all credit, but I did have some help.

A couple of questions. What's the difference between a "low" lead car to a regular lead car? I am assuming it just means its lower, but as I have found out in the past its dangerous to assume.. lol. The second question, is that "more" experience sailor (he has forgotten more about sailing than I know but that is the problem) came back to me and said I needed a "Single Block with a track car". Is the lead car a cleaner and better solution?

I found some Schaefer Twin-Sheet Lead Block's for an reasonable price $117. Btw, it is 1.25" track was in the original post, but it was probably stated incorrectly.

Thanks again,
TK

[Faster]

Nice job on the paint!!

[overbored]

Originally Posted by tkawika

Hey guys thanks for the advice. Thanks John for the topside compliment, I would like to take all credit, but I did have some help.

A couple of questions. What's the difference between a "low" lead car to a regular lead car? I am assuming it just means its lower, but as I have found out in the past its dangerous to assume.. lol. The second question, is that "more" experience sailor (he has forgotten more about sailing than I know but that is the problem) came back to me and said I needed a "Single Block with a track car". Is the lead car a cleaner and better solution?

I found some Schaefer Twin-Sheet Lead Block's for an reasonable price $117. Btw, it is 1.25" track was in the original post, but it was probably stated incorrectly.

Thanks again,
TK

you will need a car and block that will let the sheet go to the winch without binding the blocks swivel. low lead cars are mostly for race boats with deck sweeper genoa. with lead cars you will need an additional block to get to the winch. I would think on your boat you would be better off with a car and a block that swivels to any angle. Garhauer has the best stuff for a crusing boat at very good price. Garhauer Marine Hardware -2640530
Garhauer Marine Hardware -2640520 Genoa car system is a very good way to adjust the car to different sail trim while underway

[SVPrairieRose]

I second Gurahauer, anything I need to replace I get from them, exceptional customer service and if weight is not an issue than you cannot beat value for dollar for their gear!

[chef2sail]

Another Garhauer fan here,

I would by track cars which have easy adjustment. Stay away from the screw down pins in the holes. Go for the ones the pins pull to release the car to slide. Also don't skimp here. Oversized is better. Make sure you also buy end stops for your tracks so you don't loose your expensive cars.

Personally I like the cars with the blocks attached that are not spring loaded. On Haleakula
we have Schaefer Twins Shhet lead Blocks which fit on a 11/4 inch track. They have a pull pin for quick adjustement and have a wide angle for the sheet to go in and out ( actually its flared). They are not spring loaded. Schaeffer model 3281. They work like butter. Course if I had the money I would go with the Harken line adjustable car system, but that runs a couple thousand.

Schaefer Twin Sheet Lead Block for 1 1/4 in T-Track
Code: SCH3281
Price: $214.40

Dave

[tkawika]

Thanks Faster!!! The next person who wears black marking soles on the boat is automatically volunteering for the first MOB drill.. haha

I have sent an email to Gahauer about the right size (Garhauer Marine Hardware -2640530), because there is no scale to pick the right one (My LOA is 35ish). I wish I could afford the EZ Car from Gahauer, not because I would know what to do with it, it just looks cool. haha

Btw chef, as you probably already know Kawika means David in Hawaiian.

Thanks again everyone.
TK

[tkawika]

Just spoke to Garhauer, because I couldn't wait for an email response, and they recommended Garhauer Marine Hardware -2645707 LLC2 Low Lead Car. He said that the Track Car with Single Blocks weren't strong enough for my size boat and Genoa. After some more research I found an Amazon page with a Garhauer Track Car and its states that it can handle 2800lbs and the Low Lead Car they suggested handles 3000lbs. The cost is about the same for both products, but it sounds like the track car with single block would be a better a solution. Is 200lbs something I need to worry about?

Now, I might get a different answer from their email, since they can see the photos.