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Re: Anchoring In Mexico

I am repeatedly amazed at skippers asking questions about anchors that are at least 20 years old or more in design, and asking if they will continue to work.

1. If they worked before they should continue to work.

2. The country that they are employed in is immaterial.

3. New gen anchors are far superior to older designs.

What's so hard?
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Re: Anchoring In Mexico

i am here in mexico on southwest coast.
i usuallyanchor and use a marina in summer when storms come.
i have a friend here who also spent summer--he was anchored out in mangroves.
what you will use here is
your bruce. this is `perfect bottom for bruce--rocky sand and rocky mud.
GET MORE CHAIN.
you want to anchor here with up to 200 ft of chain with your bruce.
all the boats i have seen anchored for any duration with mixed rode have suffered severe FAIL of rope part of rode chafing 5 ft from end of chain. this happens fast.
i have suffered loss of galvo on my chain--it still works, so it gets used.
most places so far that i have anchored i have been fine with my 30kg bruce and 194 ft of 5/16 chain. i keep 160 ft on bottom. even here where depth is only 10 ft--definitely use 160 ft on bottom. it is ifffy holding and works best with chain down. i have had no problem here even in winds to just under 40 kts.

my friend has a steelie of about 39 ft length and uses 180 ft chain with a 45 pound cqr. no problem anywhere he has anchored since his mixed rode parted and he lost his 30 kg bruce and 50 ft chain. .

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oh yes.i watched as a rocna failed to set in zihuatenejo, and 2 deltas dragged in barra. and mixed rode failed in la cruz de huanacaxtle, and my own 45 pound cqr failed in mazatlan once the chain slid over a ledge into the puma channel...oh yes and the undersized toy danforth with its 10 ft chain on a hunter 26 run alll over barra lagoon....and....
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Re: Anchoring In Mexico

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On a slightly different topic, be sure to be aware once you get into Mexican waters that your plotter will lie to you.. we were always showing anchored some distance inland.

I'd say night time landfalls without radar are a no-go...
Good advice, this. Most paper & e-charts of Mexico's west coast (Pacific side & Sea of Cortez) are based on scant US Navy & British Admiralty surveys, some of which date back to the 1880s! Bathymetry is limited, many hazards are uncharted or misplaced, and the entire swath from Ensenada to Bandaras Bay has chart datum errors exceeding 2nm. Here's an excerpt from the (sole) NOAA chart of the northern Sea -- a vast area, generally shallow, with lots of hazards & a huge tidal range:

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Note the excess of detail. Anyone wanting more tools can supplement their charts with the chartlets from Gerry Cunningham, and/or Heather Bansmer.

Per anchoring, I gathered from books and blogs that holding is generally good, with packed sand being the most common bottom (suggesting a plow-type). A heavy enuf claw should work, too. Estuaries can be silty, where the claw would be preferred, and there are anchorages with plenty rock & kelp, which may make anything short of a 200# fisherman's tricky to set. Fluke-type anchors make good lunch hooks in the sandy areas, but the large tidal currents (or nighttime katabatics) in most of the Sea can trip them when you aren't looking. We're planning a ~35# Rocna, Manson, or Mantus, on the theory it can best handle the range of bottoms & will reset quickly if tripped.

Thanks Zeehag for the 'lots of chain' advice.
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So, the Prairie Rose is off to Mexico.

I'm looking to do the same thing.
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Re: Anchoring In Mexico

it is really quite nice here once you get past the desert areas.. this is tropical and lovely. not as hot as desert mexico.

i have seen rocnas fail here. you WANT a bruce and lots of chain,. that is perfect set up here with rocky sand or rocky muck or mud and rocks bottoms, which what mexico is. lots more rocks in sea of cortez, but i never anchored there as i went there in a car. generally speaking, what you see on land, mexico has under water. except the trees
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