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fyi: from West Marine review which included a photo of "the bent noodle"


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=P005_153_007_004&langId=-1

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The Rocna shanks bend like noodles!
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• Made in China - weak
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Comments about Rocna Anchors Fixed Shank Scoop Anchors:
If you have been following the boating forums, then you have read that Rocna moved their manufacturing from NZ to China a couple of years ago and then began to immediately make their anchors out of a mild steel which is more likely to bend during a side load. Buyer beware!
West Marine sent out a post card to Rocna customers with a notification of this fact. Check their Product Recall web page.Bottom Line No, I would not recommend this to a friend.
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Rocna shanks bend like noodles!


.There is an assumption that 'we' haven't done our research on Rocna, etc. prior to posting a question here. The original question of the OP was and still is:

Has anyone had experience with the Norestar? I added a request for tech data comps if a reference is available.
Lectures on how much 'we' should spend and on what type or brand of anchor we should buy are irrelevant to the original question.

BTW, a knock off typically refers to an item that imitates the product and the brand name. If I had a Coach handbag, that is not an original from the Coach factory. Same leather, zipper, and "Coach" emblem on the bag and carries the same load. I have a knock-off.
A new brand name/Manufacturer to the anchor spectrum is simply a new brand name, without any other specificity of technical differences to evaluate. "Original" could refer to the first CQR anchor to roll off the assembly line, but is a term better suited to a Degas or Remington....

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Buy whatever anchor you like. Just be careful pulling into the marina in case your remould tyres skid when your skimmed Chinese steel brake discs shatter under the heat
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Buy whatever anchor you like. Just be careful pulling into the marina in case your remould tyres skid when your skimmed Chinese steel brake discs shatter under the heat
Yes, of course, that would be someone pulling and dragging in with a Rocna anchor made in China at 6 x the price of other brands. Some of us have figured that a china connection is an issue (months ago) when West Marine published an apology for the inferior production steel and their recall of Rocna.
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Only in a Capitalist society, which is based on greed, can someone who asks about the quality of a product or service get the answer of price.

Just because someone else's ego forces them to follow the herd, I think wondering if a other market brand might be worth the effort is a good question.

I, too, am looking for an answer to the anchor question. I may get a Norestar, but then again, I may get a used anchor and not really know who the manufacturer is. I have a budget and I am going with what I can afford with research. And if I see something that looks good based on what I have gathered, I am going with it. Not because someone says price is more important because that is what they did. Heck, I know a lot of individuals who don't know anything about a particular subject, but yet spend money so that, they think, others will think they do.

No real data was presented here to specifically say that a Norestar was bad.

However, to Jollymon, this person gave good information for me to go with a CQR. Facts speak the loudest to me. So whatever brand I get, it will be a CQR type anchor.
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Just because someone else's ego forces them to follow the herd, I think wondering if a other market brand might be worth the effort is a good question.
This comment reminded me of a bit I saw an English comic deliver. He was talking about fashion and he said "In my country, we still have fox hunting. The hunters ride horses and have large packs of dogs to chase the fox. At the back of those packs of dogs there is always one dog who has no sense of smell and has no idea why he's there. He's merely following a bunch of a$$holes.

And that's all you need to know about fashion."
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"Only in a Capitalist society, which is based on greed, can someone who asks about the quality of a product or service get the answer of price."
Nyet! Tovarich.

In other states one can still get the answer of price. Why is there so much chicory in my ersatz coffee? Because the Ministry has refused to pay more. Why is there no bread at the bakery? Because the Ministry refuses to pay farmers what it costs to raise wheat for flour.

Nyet! This price answer is sadly spread well beyond capitalism.

When The State tells you that there is one proper anchor, and you shall buy that anchor, and you shall use that anchor under penalty of arrest and correction, then you still have to worry about price. Because your family may not be able to afford to pay for the bullet used to shoot you, if you are caught using the wrong anchor.

It is being a matter of price, even in a better state.
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"Only in a Capitalist society, which is based on greed, can someone who asks about the quality of a product or service get the answer of price."
Nyet! Tovarich.

In other states one can still get the answer of price. Why is there so much chicory in my ersatz coffee? Because the Ministry has refused to pay more. Why is there no bread at the bakery? Because the Ministry refuses to pay farmers what it costs to raise wheat for flour.

Nyet! This price answer is sadly spread well beyond capitalism.

When The State tells you that there is one proper anchor, and you shall buy that anchor, and you shall use that anchor under penalty of arrest and correction, then you still have to worry about price. Because your family may not be able to afford to pay for the bullet used to shoot you, if you are caught using the wrong anchor.

It is being a matter of price, even in a better state.
Ironic that I scroll down to read anchor replies here... and find a link directing me to a site pushing all the sheeple into boycotting free speech. A matter of price again.....??? perhaps I should boycott Sailnet products for their poor judgement in promoting the link instructing me to "stand up against" my Constitutional rights?
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ironic that i scroll down to read anchor replies here... And find a link directing me to a site pushing all the sheeple into boycotting free speech. A matter of price again.....??? Perhaps i should boycott sailnet products for their poor judgement in promoting the link instructing me to "stand up against" my constitutional rights?
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Re: Off Brand Norestar Anchor Quality

No capitalism here. Has not been for a long time.
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Re: Off Brand Norestar Anchor Quality

The Manson is not a copy of the Rocna. It is a much better anchor. Rocna's were good until they started making them in China. Now they sell a knock off of their own anchor.
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