Blown sails? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 08-29-2011
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Blown sails?

I have a 36 year old boat with a suit of sails of various unknown age and usage. Is there an objective way of knowing if they are past their useful life? Not racing, just daysailing, and weekending.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 08-29-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 9
puddinlegs is on a distinguished road
No choice but to lay'em out, hoist'em up, and look. Even better if you have a knowledgeable friend who can help you. You can use most any sail, but the analogy is driving a Ferrari with bad shocks and bald tires.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 08-29-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 18
Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 9
ccriders is on a distinguished road
You don't specify how many sails you have, but there are sail cleaning and restoration services that can evaluate each of your sails and quote you a price to restore those of value. Here is one for example: Sail Care for sail cleaning, sail repair, new sails, roller furlings and sailing equipment but there must be many, maybe one local so you don't have to ship.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 08-29-2011
imagine2frolic's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,831
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 7
imagine2frolic is on a distinguished road
With blown sails you will find you will go from drifting to actually sailing in light wind with better sails. You will heel a lot less too. Sail loft may be able to recut the sails, or have some good used ones. Eventually there is nothing like a new set of sails cut for your boat.........i2f
__________________
20 MPH ain't fast unless, you do it in a 1000sq 3/2 house on 10foot waves
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


BORROWED, No single one of us is as smart as all of us!
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 08-29-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 9
puddinlegs is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by imagine2frolic View Post
With blown sails you will find you will go from drifting to actually sailing in light wind with better sails. You will heel a lot less too. Sail loft may be able to recut the sails, or have some good used ones. Eventually there is nothing like a new set of sails cut for your boat.........i2f
And to clarify, with old blown sails in a breeze, you will have much more trouble flattening and de-powering them. More than likely you won't be able to at all. The end result will be more heel, and more leeway, not less.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 08-29-2011
BubbleheadMd's Avatar
Chastened
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Edgewater/Annapolis
Posts: 2,894
Thanks: 1
Thanked 56 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 5
BubbleheadMd will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Yahoo to BubbleheadMd
Go sailing and take pictures. If the sails have a belly when you stretch them out...

My current mainsail looks like it was cut for Santa Claus.
__________________
S/V Old Shoes
1973 Pearson 30 #255
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 08-29-2011
JimsCAL's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Glen Cove, NY
Posts: 2,445
Thanks: 2
Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts
Rep Power: 8
JimsCAL is on a distinguished road
From the Quantum Sails website:

"As a triangle, sails will last for a surprisingly long time. It is not uncommon to find sails still in use that are 10-15 years old. Structurally, they gradually lose their integrity over time, principally as the materials and stitching fail under the influence of the sun. UV causes woven polyester materials (referred to generically by the trade name Dacron) to gradually lose tear strength. If you can take an existing tear and easily extend it by pulling with moderate pressure, itís over. You can fix the tear with a patch, but it will just keep on tearing in other places, often at the edge of any repair. Likewise, if you can run your fingernail across the stitching and pick it off easily, the sail needs re-stitching. It is normal for the stitching to rot before the material in the sail, so it can be re-stitched, and should be periodically during its lifetime."
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 08-29-2011
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Can I just measure (eyeball really) maximum draft, and the position of maximum draft? Is this a good indication that the sail is servicable or not?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 08-29-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posts: 1,045
Thanks: 18
Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 9
ccriders is on a distinguished road
As I recall from earlier posts you are not yet in the water, is that correct? It will be difficult to see if your main is bellied out unless you can hoist it and adjust the clew out haul and have it oriented on a beat. If you can accomplish that with the boat on the hard, then yes, by sighting up the sail to determine where (fore to aft) the draft is greatest. It should be in the forward third of the sail and should be moveable (somewhat) with the clew outhaul.
Other issues include, do your sails fit your boat? What are their condition with respect to wear and tear? In addition to what JimsCAL posted above, take a pointed tool (not a needle but something like a phillips screwdriver) and see if you can easily press it through the fabric, if not then the fabric probably has some life left in it and might be worth having reconditioned. Do the sails have any stiffness to them, or are they like an old bed sheet? If they have some body left and are not rotted then refurbishment is whorthwhile.
I'm not talking about racing sails, but what you need for just messing about in your boat. You after all don't want a sail to blow out when the wind pipes up and you are a little slow to put in that reef. Like anything else on the boat, it is best if it does not fail when being actively used.
Have fun with your boat,
John
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 08-30-2011
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,973
Thanks: 0
Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the tips ccrider. I did manage to get the boat in the water this summer. I haven't actually had a chance to sail a ton. The main seems to be crisp. The 100% jib flaps a bit on the foot, and beats like a helecopter (in 10-12 kn) on the leach. Next time I go out, I will see where the max draft is, and see if I can move it forward... how do I do that again? Increase halyard tension?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Blown Spreader on Cal 29 chartscharts Gear & Maintenance 18 08-10-2011 10:05 AM
Blown engine sailor25b General Discussion (sailing related) 5 09-05-2008 05:38 AM
how to tell if sails are blown out? FRRizzo111 Gear & Maintenance 5 04-15-2005 08:09 AM
Blown Away James Baldwin Seamanship Articles 0 09-13-2004 08:00 PM
Blown Balmar? z1nonlyone General Discussion (sailing related) 3 01-30-2003 12:25 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:25 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.