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jjablonowski 09-16-2011 04:22 PM

Flare Up! Oct 15 New Rochelle NY
 
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Shoot off your out-of-date flares

Sponsor: Westchester Sail & Power Squadron
Place: Five Islands Park, New Rochelle, New York
Time: 8:30 am to 12:30 pm. Saturday Oct 15 2011
Info: jwsteger@hotmail.com

hellosailor 09-19-2011 05:19 PM

BY all means pratice with a few...but outdated flares are still perfectly legal and sensible to carry onboard as spares. I've seen 'em ten+ years past date still work perfectly well.

The big surprise is that if you've never fired one...unless you're firing SOLAS flares or something you got at Missles-R-Us, you'll be amazed at how poorly marine flares compare to plain civilian fireworks.

Put the old ones in an airtight jar or tin, with moisture and air excluded they kept just about forever. Those plastic Olin containers? Are designed to make them go stale.

DRFerron 09-19-2011 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hellosailor (Post 776830)
BY all means practice with a few...but outdated flares are still perfectly legal and sensible to carry onboard as spares. I've seen 'em ten+ years past date still work perfectly well.

Out of date flares may still work (and I keep my expired flares to use first should I ever need one) but in the US if they have expired, they are not considered part of your legally required number of Visual Distress Signals. Once past the expiration date, they aren't reliable. I've set some out of date flares off and some went off just fine while others were a struggle to get lit.

hellosailor 09-19-2011 06:05 PM

"if they have expired, they are not considered part of your legally required number of Visual Distress Signals."
That should be obvious.

Whether flares, old or new, are reliable and fire as expected depends on many things. Considering that they are not sold in airtight containers, and they are normally not KEPT in airtight containers, and even worse that they are kept in humid environments...

Whether your outdated flares are any more or less reliable than brand news ones, probably depends on how all of them were kept.

Sometime in the 1990s, IIRC, archaeologists recovered a Revolutionary War era cannonball from a mudbank somewhere in Virginia or the Chesapeake. The cannonball had been totally buried in the mud for 200+ years. When they cleaned it off, opened up the fuse hole, inserted a new fuse and lit it?

Yessir, that E.I.Dupont DeNemours And Company Cannonball exploded just fine after 200+ years. Nice layer of ud plugged the fuse hole, kept the powder dry, and that's all it takes to have reliable pyrotechnics. Just buy 'em from a good source and keep that powder dry.

And every three years buy three more toys to meet the USCG regulations. "No sir, you may not see them, they are hermertically sealed in this container with the rest of my pyros so they will work when I need them." The dayglo orange hermtically sealed can with an inventory on the outside seems to be sufficient.


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