Bringing another line back to cockpit - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 09-20-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 2,249
Thanks: 2
Thanked 38 Times in 38 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Bringing another line back to cockpit

Here is a pic of the deck showing how the main halyard is brought back to the cockpit.

If I wanted to do the same with a second line (new rigid boomvang), how would you do it? Just add a second stand up block and flat block?

Or should I remove the single flat block and replace it with a double, or even triple for later expansion?

i didn't show the winch and cleat in the cockpit for the main halyard. The boomvang came with a rope clutch that I'll install next to the winch and cleat.

__________________
1984 Bristol 31.1
Alameda, California, USA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 09-20-2011
mitiempo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,152
Thanks: 0
Thanked 71 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 8
mitiempo will become famous soon enough mitiempo will become famous soon enough
Mark

You could change the single stand up block for a double. You could either replace the flat block with a double or replace it with a deck organizer. I would choose the organizer which will keep the lines closer to the deck and spread the load over more fasteners.The problem I see is that the load in the stand up block will increase. It is considered by many to be not a great idea to put a lot of upward force on the deck in this way though.
__________________
Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 09-20-2011
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,468
Thanks: 6
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 15
sailingfool will become famous soon enough
Why bother...the vang doesn't get adjusted very often, except perhaps when racing in a breeze. On many boats I sail, you dont need to touch the vang all day unless you are putting a reef in, in which case you are usually going forward anyway. Is there much payback for solving this question?
__________________
Certified...in several regards...
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 09-20-2011
emoney's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 545
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 5
emoney is on a distinguished road
I'd change the existing blocks to handle more lines: the fewer holes in the deck the better. Don't forget you'll need a mounting point on the bottom of the mast for the vang though (may be there but the pic doesn't show it). Your brightwork looks awesome by the way.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 09-20-2011
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 14,925
Thanks: 75
Thanked 214 Times in 206 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Changing that single block to a double may work, but I'd worry a bit about the two different leads (from the current halyard on the mast and from the vang, which would typically run low from the base of the mast.

Depending on the vang, you might get away with simply a deck organizer, and run direct from the vang to that, leading the vang on the inside. Leave the halyard in the standup, lead it through the second sheave on the organizer. If you're going to do that I'd get a triple organizer for the future.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 09-20-2011
blt2ski's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,723
Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts
Rep Power: 10
blt2ski will become famous soon enough
I would not run the vang thru a double where the current deck sheave is. But a new one at the base of the mast, or not at all as faster points out, to a deck organizer where the current cheek block is located. You might be able to put another block on the top of this one. Sometimes you can double this up, as you can with organizers. The top row is rated to about half the lower. I have double quads on my boat. the lowers have the higher tension lines, like halyards, the upper lower ones like reef lines, vang etc.

Marty
__________________
She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 09-20-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 2,249
Thanks: 2
Thanked 38 Times in 38 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Having another look, I think I'd be better off running the new line on the port side. Then I could mount a 3-way (or more) deck organiser and a matching rope clutch to the left of the sliding hatch. The right side of the hatch is cluttered up with the winch and cleat for the main halyard.
__________________
1984 Bristol 31.1
Alameda, California, USA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 09-20-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 258
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Rep Power: 7
baboon is on a distinguished road
I installed a rigid vang on my boat this spring and used the same set up as you have for your main halyard. In my case the halyard was a spare for the jib, so I just cleated it at the mast and used the stand up and turning block for the vang. It works perfect. If I were to install new I would add a 2 or 3 part turning block even if you do not need it now. I do not need a winch for the vang, but I do adjust it under sail more than I thought, so binging it back is good.

I second the comment on your boat, looks great.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 09-20-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 2,249
Thanks: 2
Thanked 38 Times in 38 Posts
Rep Power: 4
MarkSF is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by baboon View Post
I installed a rigid vang on my boat this spring and used the same set up as you have for your main halyard. In my case the halyard was a spare for the jib, so I just cleated it at the mast and used the stand up and turning block for the vang. It works perfect. If I were to install new I would add a 2 or 3 part turning block even if you do not need it now. I do not need a winch for the vang, but I do adjust it under sail more than I thought, so binging it back is good.

I second the comment on your boat, looks great.
Thanks for the compliment!

I suspect that, if it's easy to adjust the boomvang, it'll get adjusted more often.
__________________
1984 Bristol 31.1
Alameda, California, USA
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 09-20-2011
rugosa's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: In a strange land
Posts: 508
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Rep Power: 4
rugosa is on a distinguished road
Yes, the bright work is amazing. What is your secret?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Back in the cockpit jb1528 Introduce Yourself 3 11-10-2010 03:42 PM
Bringing Teak & Holly Sole Back to Life? backcreeksailor Gear & Maintenance 7 05-10-2009 04:38 PM
Bringing it back orlowsks Gear & Maintenance 10 02-05-2009 03:45 PM
CBTF Yacht Captures Back-to-Back Line Honors in Sydney Hobart Race - American Digital Networks (press release) NewsReader News Feeds 0 12-28-2006 08:15 PM
CBTF Yacht Captures Back-to-Back Line Honors in Sydney Hobart Race - Business Wire (press release) NewsReader News Feeds 0 12-28-2006 07:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:16 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.