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I am the guy who started this topic/thread and I have to say that, aside from someone bringing up drugs which had nothing to do with my question, I was dismayed at some folks attitudes towards me when I simply wanted to know about the best TV satelite dish and or plasma display as they really are thin and there for more boat friendly etc. But let me explain further so you can have a better idea of why I wanted a TV and better reception, not that it should matter.

Hi, my name is chris and I am a TV writer and producer. I make my living through the TV and it is very important for me to keep current with what''s on. Not to mention...and I''m not afried to admit it( you yachty snobs know who you are and may wish to cover your ears) I happen to like watching TV and movies, and on the biggest screen I can afford. By the way, there is more to programming then brady buch reruns or the Jack Ass show. Ever heard of CNN and all the rest of the news shows that "crazy" people like me like to watch so they don''t seem ignorant? Look guys, I don''t care if you think I have no imagination or must be a boring person cause I like TV. I really don''t care. I just wanted to hear from real folks not afreid to watch the "evil" box from time to time and do so with the latest technology or most practical way set up in satelite stuff. What works and what doesn''t. So, back to my original question...can one get a good reception from those marine version satelite dishes and can they run on battery power or what. Let me worry about rotting my own brain, or yours as you may have watched and god forbid...enjoyed one of my shows. Thanks. By the way. I plan on living aboard, so I will not have a TV somewhere else to watch, so I really do want a good reception. There , I said it. I came out of the TV closet!
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Myblueheaven,

Did you see my post concerning the round, disc-like Shakespeare antenna I''ve mounted on my boats mast? I thought I posted it,but I can''t seem to find it.My therapist says this will stop happening once they adjust my medication. Anyway, I bought a tv antenna for the boat that''s made, I believe by Shakespeare.It''s a round disc that has multi-directional signal pick up.The antenna has a small amplifier that is powered off of my boats 12 volt power supply.I''m not sure of the range for the antenna,but 24 miles seems to be stuck in my memory for some reason.The flat plasma screen tv I have scans over 100 channels through its set up function,and locks in the channels with the strongest signals in its memory.For each different locale I''m in, I''ll run this set up feature and it works great.Usually I can pick up at least 6 clear channels. The boat swinging doesn''t seem to effect the signal. As far as your question about the DirectTV antenna. From my experience (limited) with that type of dish, I''m not sure how it would work.The one I installed on my house one time had to be set up for a certain direction to pick up the one satellite it picks its signal up off of.I would think that boat swing would have a major impact on the signal? Maybe they have units now that will self adjust to keep the correct angle and skew to the satellite? Sorry, but that''s about all I know about that one. I hope this is of some help.
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MBH,

You don''t have to justify anything, even the evils of working in the broadcast field (I make about 25% of my income from there too, so I''m not going to putting my head up into that field of fire).

I have seen two marine boat systems, I''ll have to hunt them down later. One uses the signal from the satellite to keep on track and is expensive. The other one is much cheaper, but uses a fluxgate compass to point the dish at where the satellite is supposed to be, and angle on the dish is fixed, so I''m guessing any chop and you loose the signal.

More popular for marina hounds is a clamp-on dish to put on a piling. At my current marina there''s a dish with the bracket mounted on a concrete slab and they just have it sitting on the dock.

We have an antenna, but hardly ever use it. Our viewing is more planned than wanting to see "what''s on" at the moment. Forget trying to follow a series, as one network you might be able to pick up may not be (and seldom is for us) available in the next.
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PBzeer "seems like all you really want to do is escape growing up". Hmmm well what is "growing up", I would like to be older so that I have more freedoms. I do not want to live with my parents for any more then I have to. But mentally i guess i do not want to "grow up"- if you call growing up being ratoinal, conservative, ect. With drugs, I would rather be getting stoned or tripping on mushrooms, DMT, peyote, salvia, ect rather then just getting drunk, like most adult "grown up" people do. I dont really see alcohol as, as special as hallucinogens and marijuana. I mean I see it, after your away from mommy and daddy, then you can just do whatever you want(well not really, because there is government, law enforcement,ect) but you can basicly do what you want, so why just become conservative and "grown up".
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When you finally do GROW up you might understand.
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well im 17 now, so i guess 18 is considered "grown up" because thats when the government allows you some freedom, but 21 is when your allowed more freedoms. Humans are actually adults though when there around 12 because thats when you can reproduce.
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Jeffamc--
Your postings really have NOTHING to do about sailing--just getting stoned etc. I just want to echo what others have said here
GROW UP. Being an adult is not about having "FREEDOMS" or being able to reproduce, but about having maturity and being able to shoulder responsibilities. I apologize to the others for hijacking this thread about tv reception ( which by the way, I have found will vary from marina to marina sometimes because of other boats electronics etc) but I have had it with the adolescent whinings ...
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Back to Sat TV.............
No need to justify ANY passion, whether TV, or diving or bird watching, or rum punches, or whatever, in sailing. For 30 years I resisted all TV and even radio on my boats. Finally we bought a boat with TV, then installed a DVD player and played Jurassic Park in a marina one time and we were hooked. As long as it doesn''t get out of hand, it adds to the cruising experience, IMHO. Currently I make part of my living hosting streaming audio and video from TV and radio stations, to put their signals on the internet.........
I echo Stede, I have the same mast-top amplified antenna, with the same station-hunt capability on the TV and get tons of broadcast stations and it works great.
There are also lots of piling-mounted DirecTV antennas in many marinas, including ours, that are very effective--we personally don''t have one in the marina, but about 6 of our neighbors have piling-mounted ones and rave. (At the house, I''ve had dishes since the first 12'' solid aluminum ones mounted on a pad on my driveway, with big worm gears and motors to turn them. First one was about 1981. Now we have DirecTV at the house.) The dishes need to be within 1-2 degrees of accurate pointing and be relatively stable.
However, Ebay often has motorized dish-aiming devices offered. Some by (I believe) KVH are perhaps $3K--you can find them in RV places like Camping World--I looked at one the other day. Nice, but very expensive. Some by (I believe Hughes) are closer to $700-800. Then there is the unit with the advertising in mags for "90-10" of a rail mounted motorized unit that is even cheaper. The one I like--just from looking--is the Hughes unit (I hope memory serves and I have the right manufacturer). If I see it again on Ebay I''ll post the link. I have not yet tried it, but it is on the list.......

(PS: To Stede: Thanks for the link on the TV mount. You are indeed a kindred spirit. And not to divert to a tangent, but if you want to exchange refrig/freezer design elements, let me know. I put a switch and light like a real refrig, rebuilt the lids, put a lower door on the refrig, double gaskets, increased insulation with VIP panels, eliminated the drain, and added new mechanicals--separate units for freezer and refrig. Along the way, I became an EPA certifed refrig tech, got the guages and vacuum pump and now am real dangerous on refrigeration!!)
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mlc101,

What can I say? I''m in awe of your boat system achievements. I have an electrical/computer background and can appreciate the technical aspects of such installations. I thought I had my boat pretty well decked out (especially with the remote control for the Autopilot that lets me steer the boat from the bow), but my systems are only in the embryonic stage compared to yours! You Sir,are a guru in Tron!(Stede taking hat off)I''m sure I''ll have many questions for you concerning refrigeration as I begin my installation.Right now,I''m thinking of doing the project in stages.I would appreciate any input,or opinions from you or others in this preliminary stage.Here''s the deal.My boat is 26 feet.For the last several years,I became a mediocre hurdle jumper as I would try to leap over my cooler that blocked the entrance to the head/v-berth.I loathed the beasts existance and it seemed to take great satisfaction in constantly tripping me.Last year I removed a starboard settee cushion,and installed two fold down eye-hook brackets.I placed the cooler beast there,and would strap it down.It worked great!I would laugh at the beast as I easily walked past it to the head. Now, for planned stage two.(Where I extract my revenge on the cooler beast-caging it!) I want to build,or buy a well insulated marine cooler box,then add more insulation around it,and frame it with teak paneling.Basically it will be a big box with a lift up top.The top will be made to be used as a chart table.Once I get this stage complete,my intention at present is to install a cold plate system.Of course with it,comes the power requirement needs,and how to satisfy them.The real fun stuff!That''s when I''m sure your experience in refrigeration could really help me.If anyone has any opinons or insight on my projected plans,I sure would appreciate it.As for you Mr.mlc101,the (Mr.Freeze) of refrigeration,thanks for offering your help!You will be hearing from me again
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mlc 101 I would like to talk to you about refrigeration. post your phone # and I will call. Also, I have a l987 IP 27'' in which to put the refrigeration. The boat is in Florida and I am in Colorado needing the measurements of the ice box. Anybody have a 27'' with drawings of the icebox? IP does not have blueprints...so I need help. Thanks, Mjennings.... Ahyoka
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