Boat yard work how close is too close? - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 11-02-2011
johnnyandjebus's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 424
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 6
johnnyandjebus is on a distinguished road
Boat yard work how close is too close?

Hello all

I was reading another thread here where it was suggested that if the OP was to do their repairs on their sailboat, boat yard etiquette suggests they should be a size-able distance from another boat. This got me thinking. My boat is out of the water for the winter and I have a few minor blister repairs to do. Like most marinas the boats are packed in tight. So what say you? Am I out of line to sand and repair my blisters with another boat sitting 10-15 feet away. I have done so in the past, only sanding on windless days, vacuuming up after myself etc. How about the light sanding of the anti-fouling that takes place in the spring?
If the situation were reversed I would have no problem with a boat owner doing light repairs(including sanding) next to me, Some repairs have to be done regardless of the "on the hard" setup. A small amount of dust on my hull is to be expected in a tight yard.

What are your expectations as fellow boat owners?

John
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 11-02-2011
tommays's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,282
Thanks: 1
Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts
Rep Power: 7
tommays will become famous soon enough
I work in my own driveway and i get crazy about using tarps to catch any dropping dust OR blowing dust that gets away even when using my vacuum sander as i do not want to turn my neighbors homes colors or make a super fund sight
__________________
1970 Cal 29 Sea Fever

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1981 J24 Tangent 2930
Tommays
Northport NY


If a dirty bottom slows you down what do you think it does to your boat
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 11-02-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 713
Thanks: 3
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 10
xymotic is on a distinguished road
If I put my boat into dry storage @ a boat yard, I expect it to get very dirty. If I am at a nice marina not so much.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 11-02-2011
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 2,077
Thanks: 0
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Barquito is on a distinguished road
10-15 feet away? I can work on my side deck from my neighbors boat. I would imagine if you tarp or vacuum while you sand (kind of like whistle while you work, but louder) you will be fine. That is what I plan to do.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 11-02-2011
JimMcGee's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Barnegat Bay, NJ
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 26
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 10
JimMcGee is on a distinguished road
I'd think a vacuum sander would be the minimum. Without one you may be spreading a lot of fine dust and not realizing it.

I had a 1950's fishing boat next to me last winter and the owner was taking the hull down to re-finish. I got down one saturday afternoon and my deck and cockpit were turned blue with sanding dust.

I got his attention and he was mortified. Said he'd pay the yard's detail guy to clean my boat. I suggested we split a six pack and clean it off with some boat soap and brushes.

No harm done. But if that blue paint dust had baked onto the gel coat over a couple of weekends it might have been a different story. BTW, there was little or no wind, just fine airborne dust. He used a vacuum with his sander after that. No more problems.

Always a good idea to be a good neighbor...
__________________
95 Catalina 30 Island Time

ďIf a man is to be obsessed by something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most" - E.B. White
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 11-02-2011
paulk's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: CT/ Long Island Sound
Posts: 2,555
Thanks: 4
Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts
Rep Power: 15
paulk is on a distinguished road
Our yard requires ground tarps and vacuum-equipped sanders for sanding & scraping operations. This is not so much for keeping customers' boats clean as for keeping the DEP from closing the yard down. Waiting for calm days is appreciated by everyone, all the same. I try to rig plastic curtains from the toerail to keep any loose dust right under the boat and on the tarp.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 11-03-2011
SloopJonB's Avatar
Senior Moment Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 10,930
Thanks: 58
Thanked 56 Times in 53 Posts
Rep Power: 4
SloopJonB will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyandjebus View Post
So what say you? Am I out of line to sand and repair my blisters with another boat sitting 10-15 feet away. John
In a word - No. It's a boatyard, boats are there to be worked on. Use a little common courtesy and respect for your neighbours and do it. When done, clean up your own mess - leave your spot better than you found it.
__________________
I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 11-03-2011
T37Chef's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,358
Thanks: 74
Thanked 39 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 9
T37Chef will become famous soon enough
Please only wet sand/scrap with a tarp and/or use a proper sander with vacuum attachment such as this ETS 150/3 EQ Random Orbital Sander - SANDERS - Festool and this CT 26 E HEPA Dust Extractor - DUST EXTRACTORS - Festool

Without, the dust/paint will settle and the morning dew will take care of the rest I have had my boats deck covered in bottom paint dust by a ignorant owner before, just after cleaning and waxing it ready to launch, needless to say, I was a little irritated.
__________________
Cheers,
Shawn & the crew of S/V Windgeist

1982 Tartan 37 CB - Hull #358


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by T37Chef; 11-03-2011 at 02:10 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 11-03-2011
Maine Sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,539
Thanks: 13
Thanked 149 Times in 115 Posts
Rep Power: 15
Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice Maine Sail is just really nice
About four years ago some clown at our yard showed up at 6:00 on a Tuesday night, probably intentional, and sanded under spot lights until many boats in the yard were covered in green! It took me 8 hours to get my boat clean and I was six boats away. It was a pretty windless night.

Needless to say he no longer stores at our yard for the winter, not by his own choice... Use a vacuum and tent off your boat for the courtesy of others around you, please..

Most yards, at least up here, go by EPA rules, even for the DIY, which means recapturing ALL dust so it never even hits the ground.

I don't know any yard up here that still allows a sander to knowingly hit the bottom of a boat without a vacuum connected to it. I work in about 10 different local yards.. This however is not just an EPA issue but an issue of common courtesy & decency to you neighbors.

Common courtesy dictates tenting and vacuums on sanders or what ever it takes to keep dust off the ground and other boats. I have seen brand new tan canvas, just installed a few days before a launch, virtually destroyed by bottom paint dust.. The guy who just paid 5k for the new canvas was NOT a happy camper and neither was the canvas guy or the boat yard....

I think it is fair for boaters who use sanders with no vacuum, and no tenting, to know what other boaters go through, as I & many others have, when they do so. It can make an AWFUL mess for others and is simply a rude practice when there are ways to prevent this dust from affecting others.

Once dew settles on bottom paint dust, cleaning it off the deck requires some caustic chemicals and often some form of light acidic cleaner. I was still finding hints of green months later.

I spent more time cleaning the mes off my boat than the guy did sanding his... Kind of ironic that he caused me more work that he actually did...
__________________
______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




© Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.



Last edited by Maine Sail; 11-03-2011 at 09:40 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 11-03-2011
SVAuspicious's Avatar
Mermaid Hunter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: on the boat - Chesapeake
Posts: 3,673
Thanks: 0
Thanked 132 Times in 117 Posts
Rep Power: 9
SVAuspicious will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maine Sail View Post
Once dew settles on bottom paint dust, cleaning it off the deck requires some caustic chemicals and often some form of light acidic cleaner.
I'm not sure what I would do to clean my teak decks from the result of such consideration.
__________________
sail fast and eat well, dave
S/V Auspicious
AuspiciousWorks.com
beware "cut and paste" sailors.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Too many holes in my boat how to close its? regatta Gear & Maintenance 5 09-26-2011 07:04 PM
Santa Rosa Boat Yard Close Out sailingdog General Discussion (sailing related) 0 10-28-2008 08:12 AM
The optimum close hauled to close hauled tack davidpm Racing 20 07-08-2008 08:23 AM
Do you close your seacoks when leaving the boat ? negrini Gear & Maintenance 40 06-25-2008 02:35 PM
How close to the wind can your boat sail? davidbusby Seamanship & Navigation 6 03-27-2006 11:03 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.