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that is really nice mitiempo. The fake granite especially looks attractive, with the solid black laminate a close second
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If you go to a place that sells Formica or Arborite they will have hundreds of samples (a bit smaller than a credit card) that you can pick from, bring home and think about.

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There is nothing wrong with laminate until it tries to look like something it's not. Remember the woodgrain laminate of years past? As long as it is a solid color it looks good. There are also many laminates that look like granite or stone of some kind that can look good if that's what you want.
Completely off topic, but in the third pic, that pump handle is just screaming for a Hurst shifter knob.

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Peterchech, if you get a chance, post some pics of your cabin. Maybe we can throw some more accurate improvement ideas at you when we've got a better concept of the space in question.

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Some pics of the interior. Excuse the mess!








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I am currently destruction testing various samples of bamboo flooring. They are now soaking in water for about 24 hours. I think if they don't warp after 3 days they will be ok for the purpose. I will then test them heat wise, probably in the oven at 150 degrees F or so for an hour.

I looked into laminate, and tiles. I think tiles would be very heavy, and time consuming to do right. The underlying plywood would have to be extra stiff, to ensure that the tiles don't crack, adding more weight.

Laminate would be more expensive than the bamboo idea, though admittedly it is the best stuff for the job. It would require some interesting solutions to what to do with trim, because I think a squared off edge doesn't look terrific (that's what the original was, and it looked cheap to my eye). Laminate would be the lightest solution I think, and the most durable.

But the bamboo just looks so good to me, and in the opinion of my girlfriend's father who is helping with the project. I still have to decide, and further destruction testing of the bamboo is required, but if I do go with the bamboo I would make it a light bamboo color, then a dark varnished trim to match the rest of the interior. The bamboo would add structural strength, so I could probably get away with 1/2 inch ply underlay.

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Oh, man, what a great blank canvas to start with.
Here's some thoughts from someone who has just spent a ton of time and not much money upgrading the cabin on a 23' sailboat.
1. That fwd bulkhead is just screaming for some shelving. Build a dropdown table incorporating a cabinet to store glassware, plates and booze.
2. Lots of dead space under the cockpit. Under the starboard side is a great place for a cockpit cooler.
3. Pinrail should be added to the shelf outboard of the port settee.
4. Laying a solid floor is going to be a PITA with the angles involved. I'd recommend laying duckboards. Light, cheap, easily removable for cleaning, easy to build.
5. Take a look at your companionway steps. I bet there is a way to add some storage there.
6. The aft bulkhead is underutilized. More room for shelves, spice racks/knife racks.
7. Where's the gear hammocks? a $5 hammock is $1000 worth of storage.

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Laminate shouldn't be more expensive than bamboo. I pay $45 for a 4' x 8' sheet locally - retail.

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Well I did some testing of the bamboo. After 48 hours soaking in room temp water, it did not delaminate. But, it did warp:



Water also started leaching into the bamboo, creating some discoloration:



Finally, I did some scratch testing with the edge of a nail, first lightly then hard.



The lightest scratch with the nail left scratch marks on the bamkboo. I repeated the scratch test on sample formica laminate, and it held up much much better. Only the hardest scratch left a mark.

Formica it is!

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That's a screw, not a nail.

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