Refitting for the Spring - Page 3 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #21  
Old 11-21-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Liberty Landing
Posts: 665
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
peterchech is on a distinguished road
that is really nice mitiempo. The fake granite especially looks attractive, with the solid black laminate a close second
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #22  
Old 11-21-2011
mitiempo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 6,980
Thanks: 0
Thanked 61 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 7
mitiempo will become famous soon enough mitiempo will become famous soon enough
If you go to a place that sells Formica or Arborite they will have hundreds of samples (a bit smaller than a credit card) that you can pick from, bring home and think about.
__________________
Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #23  
Old 11-21-2011
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,125
Thanks: 32
Thanked 68 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
There is nothing wrong with laminate until it tries to look like something it's not. Remember the woodgrain laminate of years past? As long as it is a solid color it looks good. There are also many laminates that look like granite or stone of some kind that can look good if that's what you want.
Completely off topic, but in the third pic, that pump handle is just screaming for a Hurst shifter knob.
__________________
It's 5 o'clock somewhere:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #24  
Old 11-21-2011
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,125
Thanks: 32
Thanked 68 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
Peterchech, if you get a chance, post some pics of your cabin. Maybe we can throw some more accurate improvement ideas at you when we've got a better concept of the space in question.
__________________
It's 5 o'clock somewhere:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #25  
Old 11-22-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Liberty Landing
Posts: 665
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
peterchech is on a distinguished road
Some pics of the interior. Excuse the mess!








Last edited by peterchech; 11-23-2011 at 09:03 AM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #26  
Old 11-22-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Liberty Landing
Posts: 665
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
peterchech is on a distinguished road
I am currently destruction testing various samples of bamboo flooring. They are now soaking in water for about 24 hours. I think if they don't warp after 3 days they will be ok for the purpose. I will then test them heat wise, probably in the oven at 150 degrees F or so for an hour.

I looked into laminate, and tiles. I think tiles would be very heavy, and time consuming to do right. The underlying plywood would have to be extra stiff, to ensure that the tiles don't crack, adding more weight.

Laminate would be more expensive than the bamboo idea, though admittedly it is the best stuff for the job. It would require some interesting solutions to what to do with trim, because I think a squared off edge doesn't look terrific (that's what the original was, and it looked cheap to my eye). Laminate would be the lightest solution I think, and the most durable.

But the bamboo just looks so good to me, and in the opinion of my girlfriend's father who is helping with the project. I still have to decide, and further destruction testing of the bamboo is required, but if I do go with the bamboo I would make it a light bamboo color, then a dark varnished trim to match the rest of the interior. The bamboo would add structural strength, so I could probably get away with 1/2 inch ply underlay.

Last edited by peterchech; 11-22-2011 at 01:13 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #27  
Old 11-22-2011
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,125
Thanks: 32
Thanked 68 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
Oh, man, what a great blank canvas to start with.
Here's some thoughts from someone who has just spent a ton of time and not much money upgrading the cabin on a 23' sailboat.
1. That fwd bulkhead is just screaming for some shelving. Build a dropdown table incorporating a cabinet to store glassware, plates and booze.
2. Lots of dead space under the cockpit. Under the starboard side is a great place for a cockpit cooler.
3. Pinrail should be added to the shelf outboard of the port settee.
4. Laying a solid floor is going to be a PITA with the angles involved. I'd recommend laying duckboards. Light, cheap, easily removable for cleaning, easy to build.
5. Take a look at your companionway steps. I bet there is a way to add some storage there.
6. The aft bulkhead is underutilized. More room for shelves, spice racks/knife racks.
7. Where's the gear hammocks? a $5 hammock is $1000 worth of storage.
__________________
It's 5 o'clock somewhere:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #28  
Old 11-22-2011
mitiempo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 6,980
Thanks: 0
Thanked 61 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 7
mitiempo will become famous soon enough mitiempo will become famous soon enough
Peter

Laminate shouldn't be more expensive than bamboo. I pay $45 for a 4' x 8' sheet locally - retail.
__________________
Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #29  
Old 11-23-2011
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Liberty Landing
Posts: 665
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 3
peterchech is on a distinguished road
Well I did some testing of the bamboo. After 48 hours soaking in room temp water, it did not delaminate. But, it did warp:



Water also started leaching into the bamboo, creating some discoloration:



Finally, I did some scratch testing with the edge of a nail, first lightly then hard.



The lightest scratch with the nail left scratch marks on the bamkboo. I repeated the scratch test on sample formica laminate, and it held up much much better. Only the hardest scratch left a mark.

Formica it is!

Last edited by peterchech; 11-23-2011 at 09:00 AM. Reason: get these pics to show up
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #30  
Old 11-23-2011
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,125
Thanks: 32
Thanked 68 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
That's a screw, not a nail.
__________________
It's 5 o'clock somewhere:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
new boat, refitting to me wolfenzee Introduce Yourself 2 08-27-2008 05:30 PM
Spring has finally sprung (again) / Spring Commission Check-Off list NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 04-22-2007 05:15 PM
TODAY: United Divers Spring Sale 2006 (Spring Is Here and it's time NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 05-20-2006 11:15 AM
Refitting a 52'' ketch lazlo-n-synn Boat Review and Purchase Forum 0 04-03-2001 01:09 PM
Refitting for Performance Pete Colby Racing Articles 0 02-18-2001 07:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012