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YIKES!!!!! 30+ foot boats are expensive!!
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. FROM SOME OF YOU ALL. I did research this boat before I put the low bid on it, and didn''t think I had a snowballs chance in he!! of winning the auction, but I did. Also I was VERY fortunate that this boat had excellent mast and boon, excellent, and up graded roller furling and sails, oversized winches, also excellent gelcoat and strong front hatch/port lights, the wheel steering was a big surprise (just like Christmas) because most of these boats didn''t come with this optional set up, I was tickled when I saw the all teak interior, and the head liner didn''t get wet at all, infact I noticed (while cleaning it out) that everything from the sette benches up was basically un touched by salt water. For piece of mind I will probably change out the electrical, but I will only have it on a fresh water lake a mile from my house so I won,t need reefers and radar, GPS ecc, ect. I will only need a depth guage (already have a good transponder) speedometer, and engine instruments and I will have the ultranator and starter rebuilt. When I mentioned how expensive 30+ feet boats were, I had just got done looking at a new Western Marine catalog and I saw so many things in there that I WANT not NEED like a teak **** pit wheel table for 400.00 and a teak cockpit floor 500.00, and cabin sole teak floor (I saw the floor somewhere on the net) for 600.00 and then I started wanting lazy jacks and a spinaker set up (this boat didn''t come with the spinaker set up) about 3K for what I wanted and then I started looking at kevlar sails jeeezzee are they expensive (If I had a J80 I might consider kevlar but I really don''t need them for a cruised) Then I saw biminis and dodgers (maybe in a couple of years when I put the boat in the ocean). Any way I was just realizing that if a person wanted to they could spend a lot of money on things they may or maynot need if they wanted to personalize a boat to there tastes and desires. Getting back to my boat I can say that I was VERY lucky that things have turned out better than expected and if someone is deciding to do what I have done I would strongly suggest that when you find a boat you like on the Auction sight, that you first ask alot of questions about the boats condition and GET IT IN WRITING. when you receive the boat make sure you inspect the ACTUAL condition of the boat and make sure the auction dammage report matches what you verify in your own dammage inspection. You have legal grounds to get your money back and delivery fees and expenses incurred if the Auction report does NOT match your survey/inspection report for accuracy and truthfullness. Make sure you get a salvage report from the company that salvaged the boat to begin with, and there phone number so you can talk to who ever was involved in the salvage attempt and operations. Also talk to the insurance company that totaled the boat and talk to there surveyor (you can get loads of info from them). Remember that a company that rescues the boat can get a salvage fee as much as half the book value of the boat and the insurance company has to pay up, and if the boats value was 30,000 dollars and the Salvage company gets 15,000 and the dammage estimate to repair the boat is 10,000 then the insurance Company is liable for paying 25,000. So the insurance company usually will put the boat up for auction and cut the owner a check for 30,000 dollars. Thats how it works alot of the time and if you can get a low bid on a decent boat then you win out pretty well, but you have to do your homework and cover your a$$, it wouldn''t hurt to get your own surveyor and SEE the boat IN PERSON if you can, but if you can''t see the boat than get the condition of the boat IN WRITING FROM THE AUCTION COMPANY. And study the pictures that are on the web Auction sight as closely as you can. Sometimes they have as many as 40 or 50 pictures of the boat and its dammaged areas for you to look at and STUDY and ASK LOTS of QUESTIONS. Hope this can help some of you. Later.