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After owning a Nanni for the past 10 months I have had enough! I am going to re-power with a yanmar when we get hauled out on the 22nd (we found a god price at the miami boat show :-). We have had an issue with the heat exchanger for some time now and the Nanni rep was less than helpful with locating the parts we needed. His exact words were "Your engine is an older model so we don't carry parts for it. You should consider re-powering with one of our newer models." This was after we finally got him on the phone a month and a half after we had first contacted him! Never again would I even consider owning a Nanni! Overly complex pice of $&#@!
If your problems are only with the heat exchanger, Deniseo30 had a post a couple of days ago that had info on exchangers available for converting engines to marine. You might be able to find a cheaper solution than a repower.

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I say let's put a Lister in her and see how she does.
Would that be the Lister assembled with BSW fasteners and Lucas electrical accessories?
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

How bout an OMC saildrive
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How bout an OMC saildrive
What is the issue with one
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What about sail drives in general.
Any models ok, any trouble?
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

What about the Palmer and the westerbeak
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

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Westerbeke is not an engine. They are a contractor who put out bids for parts, including engine blocks, and then build them up and paint the finished product all red. (Including all the rubber parts, belts, hoses, that the suppliers tell you never to paint.)
So when you buy a "Westerbeke" you really have to find out who made the actual block. The main portions of your engine could come from any one of a number of different companies, depending on which block it is.
Yes they make a number of decent engines, but it is the "paint it all red, don't listen to the prime vendors who say that will make their parts fail" portion that rubs me the wrong way.
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

The ones that I can speak to:

Generally good
Cummins
Beta
Detroit (though many of these are starting to get pretty old)
Yanmar
Westerbeke (as mentioned there is some variation in these)
Volvo (newer ones, the parts are still expensive but they run well)
Isuzu
Deere

Ones that I would avoid
Volvo (older ones)
Atomic 4
Farryman
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I am pleased with my Westerbeke 58 (Mitsubishi block) except that the parts are very, very expensive. I thought Volvo was bad, but the Westerbeke prices are terrible.
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but it is the "paint it all red, don't listen to the prime vendors who say that will make their parts fail" portion that rubs me the wrong way.
They stopped doing this. Our engine was one of the last "paint it all red" engines. The paint jobs are actually quite good these days and right in line with the rest of them.

In smaller sizes the Westies are often Mitsubishi though they do use Isuzu blocks and others as well. Even small Volvo's are Perkins blocks...

That said the only major that I know of that actually "builds" their engines in small sizes in Yanmar.

Beta = Kubota
Universal = Kubota
Nani (current small models) = Kubota
Yanmar, in larger engines, uses BMW and Deutz blocks among others......

Westerbeke & Universal are quite good about parts availability but the parts, like most, are PRICEY!!!

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