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To me, the key to an affordable, easy-to-maintain engine is going with something that is still in production.

My boat came with a Westerbeke 10-Two. It hadn't been made since 1987. A new starter was listing for $1000. A head gasket was $350. A rebuild kit was going to be around $4000.

I found a salvage Beta Marine with a Kubota Z482 block, which is still in production. I spent $2k on a new long block and swapped over the marinized parts. Starters are now $80. Complete gasket sets are $50.

Always go with something that is still being manufactured. Even if you have to spend a little more to re-power, you're going to save in the long run.
Pretty good advice but not absolute - The Atomic 4 being a case in point. I haven't had any problem with parts for my Perkins 4-107. Some parts are a bit pricey but well within the "marine" standard.
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I would' t touch a Volvo. Almost everyone I know who has had one, had nothing but trouble with them.
I remember seeing a bumper sticker which said " Any parts found falling off my Volvo are of the finest Swedish craftsmanship."
Anyone know why there are so many volvo Penata repair shops. It seems every marina I stop at in ct and ny has a volvo penta sign.
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Anyone know why there are so many volvo Penata repair shops. It seems every marina I stop at in ct and ny has a volvo penta sign.
Volvo owned the OEM small boat diesel market years ago. I daresay there will be Yanmar shops everywhere before too much longer.

Volvo marinized Chevy small blocks as well - LOTS of them around.
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

And I suspect that Volvo were simply less restrictive with their franchise terms. IIRC Yanmar sold franchises by exclusive territory, and in order to ensure profitability they made the territories fairly large and exclusive. Which is why they'll slap dealers selling discount mail-order parts outside their assigned territories.

It is, after all, a business.
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For toughness, easy to work on and parts availability world wide I like the Isuzu.
Where are you finding the parts? I have a C240 (Pisces) and have had difficulty locating parts.
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

Rarely need parts but our local shop in Sidney (Klassen Diesel ) has good inventory and no trouble ordering stuff when they solved my problem of injesting water while running. I've looked at Izusu dealers in Thailand and Malaysia and found them well stocked. Make sure you've got all the part #s correct .Marinized bits by second party may be a different story.
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Anyone know why there are so many volvo Penata repair shops. It seems every marina I stop at in ct and ny has a volvo penta sign.
Because they own the majority of the inboard power boat business. I am sure there small diesel portion of there business is in the realm of single digit percentage. I would be willing to bet that most of the Volvo Penta shops don't work on diesels at all, or only do it grudgingly.
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I am pleased with my Westerbeke 58 (Mitsubishi block) except that the parts are very, very expensive. I thought Volvo was bad, but the Westerbeke prices are terrible.
I'll never buy another one, that's for sure. Limited distribution, and they are selling you a common part available at any diesel shop but at 8x the price and trying to obfuscate the more common part #s
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

Wow page 7 on marine diesels before there is a mention of Perkins.

4-108 in my previous boat and 4-154 [Japanese version] in the current one.

Widely used in a variety of apps.

Some 4-108s driving pumps/generators have made it past 50,000 hours untouched except for routine servicing.
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Re: Which engines would you think twice about

i have the Perkins Prima 50; somewhat rare engine but starts every time so far. Starts reliably on the coldest days.

Not sure of the similarity of Volvo and Perkins; ??? I have a volvo parts book that matches the engine for the most part.

Maintenance Parts do seem to be somewhat cheap when bought other than perkins. I had it out of the boat 3 years ago and discovered that Perkins is a very popular engine. They are used in Massey-ferguson tractors, Caterpillar skid steers and many commercial generators. I had mine taken apart (head cleaned of coke, injectors checked, bottom end checked) and tuned up at the tractor dealer for $1k. I consider that fairly cheap.

By the way; even anyone knows where i can find a Perkins Prima 50 Repair manual, just let me know. (nothing on-line, i know)
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