Catalina 30 standing rigging - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #41  
Old 03-11-2012
JimMcGee's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Barnegat Bay, NJ
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 26
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 10
JimMcGee is on a distinguished road
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

Alan,
I would guess sizing the rigging is a series of trade-offs and balance like most things in boat design. Some of which have come up in this thread, but some may not have.

You might try contacting Catalina. Pose the question that you're thinking of upgrading the wire size, what other parts of the boat will be affected by that change?

Jim
DRFerron likes this.
__________________
95 Catalina 30 Island Time

If a man is to be obsessed by something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most" - E.B. White
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #42  
Old 03-11-2012
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 97
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 6
alanr77 is on a distinguished road
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

Island Time: I will definitely research it quite a bit before making a final decision. The rigging job is coming up soon hence the reason I started putting out "feelers" to check my thinking. Currently getting my butt kicked by a window reseal kit, The man who designed the way old C-30 windows seal should be shot. I did notice that my upper shrouds are bigger than my f/r shrouds. I wonder if the suggestion to enlarge the wire was for older/original C-30's. I am certain that my rigging is not original. It may have been already upgraded at some point. 1/4" on the forestay, backstay and upper shrouds, then 1 size down for the lower...
__________________
SV Salinity
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #43  
Old 03-11-2012
JimMcGee's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Barnegat Bay, NJ
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 26
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 10
JimMcGee is on a distinguished road
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

Alan, you piqued my curiosity. I did a Google search and didn't come up with any reports of standing rigging failures on early C30's or any recommendations to upgrade the rigging. About the only thing I could find or that I've heard of is upgrading the wooden spreaders on early boats to the later model aluminum spreaders.

Nearly 7,000 of these boats have been built and sailed all over the world -- many in more demanding conditions than their target coastal cruising market. With so many boats out there if there was a known problem or a need to upgrade the rigging there'd be info all over the web.

The C30 is a pretty tough boat. I'd replace the rigging with the stock sizes, and yes the uppers are heavier than the lowers. The link below will take you to the owners manual for your boat. Page 6 of the PDF has the rigging schedule for your boat.

C30 MKI Owners Manual

BTW, Catalina Direct also has kits with Norseman fittings. That would be a better comparison with the Hayn fittings. I still think it would be worth an email to Hayn to ask why the price difference between their product and the Catalina Direct kits. If there is a difference in wire quality that can be quantified you can make an informed decision.

Best of luck,
Jim
__________________
95 Catalina 30 Island Time

If a man is to be obsessed by something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most" - E.B. White

Last edited by JimMcGee; 03-11-2012 at 05:06 PM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #44  
Old 03-11-2012
JimMcGee's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Barnegat Bay, NJ
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 26
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
Rep Power: 10
JimMcGee is on a distinguished road
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

Alan, this might also come in handy

C30 MKI Parts List

.
__________________
95 Catalina 30 Island Time

If a man is to be obsessed by something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most" - E.B. White
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #45  
Old 03-11-2012
mitiempo's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,286
Thanks: 0
Thanked 79 Times in 70 Posts
Rep Power: 8
mitiempo will become famous soon enough mitiempo will become famous soon enough
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

Alan

What many people do if they are re-rigging themselves is get swages for the upper end professionally done with the wire a foot overlength and install mechanical fittings (Hayn, Sta-Lok, or Norseman) on the lower end only. It keeps the cost down and swages are a lot less likely to have corrosion problems at the top end.
__________________
Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #46  
Old 03-11-2012
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 97
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 6
alanr77 is on a distinguished road
Re: Catalina 30 standing rigging

The information on the increased wire diameter came from a Practical Sailor article on the C-30. It sparked my curiosity as well, hence the troubleshooting. Doing what you did, a google search, I too was unable to come up with anything else. The Norseman kit is being considered from CD. However, Knothead made a good point regarding the longevity of a properly done swage.
__________________
SV Salinity
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
standing rigging GoodOldBoater North American Yachts 10 04-18-2012 03:21 PM
Standing rigging wdwright1967 Gear & Maintenance 15 03-05-2012 03:40 PM
Standing Rigging Too Old? StillInShock Gear & Maintenance 79 11-23-2011 01:18 PM
Standing rigging- Doing it myself irwin325cc Gear & Maintenance 22 06-30-2011 08:32 PM
New Standing Rigging sv1794 Gear & Maintenance 2 05-13-2005 08:32 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:24 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.