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Barquito 03-09-2012 01:07 PM

Blue topsides
 
I have white topsides that are in pretty bad shape. I plan on painting this spring. I know the downsides of a dark blue hull, but, like the look. Is there an effective way to avoid having bright white show through when I get scratches in the blue paint?

hellosailor 03-09-2012 01:26 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Yes, use more coats of blue paint.

Even if the blue was original gelcoat, when you scratch it the "white" structure under it will show. And however you paint, once you paint you must always repaint. Even the folks who make the best "coatings" will tell you, it has to be redone every 10 years or so. And maintained in between.

Faster 03-09-2012 01:55 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Nothing looks 'better' to my eye than a pristine 'flag blue' hull when it's clean and shiny.. but there's really no way to avoid scars in dark colours other than avoid making them in the first place.

When we repainted a previous boat we knew we'd never get it fair enough for a dark colour like that, but didn't want white, or red (which seems to suffer degradation faster than other colours) so chose Awlgrip's 'whisper grey'.. it's a nice compromise looks kinda classy and it's something that gets you out of the 'chlorox bottle' genre. Also a variety of trim and stripe colours work well with it.

Minnewaska 03-09-2012 01:56 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
That's the holy grail you're looking for. Docking becomes a whole new stress.

I love the look too. Darker the better. Flag blue is just too common. Majestic is the way to go.

They say the new Alexseal is repairable, assuming you are thinking Awlgrip. Invented by the original inventor of Awlgrp after noncompete contract expired. I used it, but (fingers crossed) havent needed to repair it yet.

Barquito 03-09-2012 10:02 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Quote:

.. but there's really no way to avoid scars in dark colours other than avoid making them in the first place.
I thought that would probably be the consensus... don't run into sh*t:D

My expectations are that is would look good initially, OK after a few years, beat-up for a few years, then re-do.

This will be DIY, roll and tip. I did Brightsides on a previous boat and found I had some brush marks, but, was happy with the results... in white. Will it be really difficult to get decent finish in a dark color?

Faster 03-09-2012 10:17 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Dark colours show up imperfections in fairing much more readily than lighter colours, and also, esp in salt water, REALLY show the dried salt. However that may be a good thing as you're motivated to rinse it away as often as you can.. not entirely a bad thing.

I know one fastidious owner that sponges the boat down at anchor after sailing for the day.

But if rolling and tipping leaves you with 'brush marks' they'll be much more visible in a dark colour. Look into reducers formulated esp for rolling and tipping, and I believe there are additives available to help paint 'flow' out more readily (hopefully without running!!)

Good luck!

Waltthesalt 03-09-2012 10:19 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
ony thing about dark blue, which I have. If your rub-rails are old and white their oxidation will streak the sides. I'm replacing my '74 vintage rubrails at about $400 because of it.

SloopJonB 03-09-2012 10:23 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Faster (Post 842747)

When we repainted a previous boat we knew we'd never get it fair enough for a dark colour like that, but didn't want white, or red (which seems to suffer degradation faster than other colours)

Red doesn't just SEEM to degrade faster, it actually does. Red pigments are the weakest re: sun degradation, of all pigments. This applies to all finishes - paint, gel, autos - you name it.

bljones 03-09-2012 11:43 PM

Re: Blue topsides
 
Whiskeyjack has been dark blue since May 2010. One of the reasons we painted her with Brightside was because we knew she would get scratched from time to time, and Brightside is easily repairable on the water. Wet sand, wipe down, touch up with a foam brush, tip with a foam brush, done.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...ing2010049.jpg

chrisncate 03-10-2012 12:22 AM

Re: Blue topsides
 
No - the scratches will be white if deep enough, always. Like the douchey bully said though - brightside for the win (and ease of repair).

I have already done one "lean over the side" touch up since the refit, and I now have another that I am waiting for a warm day to get done. Loving your flag blue is like choosing to go with varnish, it's gonna own you but it's well worth it :)

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7...0091744021.jpg


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