Blue topsides - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-09-2012
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,907
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Blue topsides

I have white topsides that are in pretty bad shape. I plan on painting this spring. I know the downsides of a dark blue hull, but, like the look. Is there an effective way to avoid having bright white show through when I get scratches in the blue paint?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 03-09-2012
hellosailor's Avatar
Plausible Deniability
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,421
Thanks: 1
Thanked 74 Times in 72 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
Re: Blue topsides

Yes, use more coats of blue paint.

Even if the blue was original gelcoat, when you scratch it the "white" structure under it will show. And however you paint, once you paint you must always repaint. Even the folks who make the best "coatings" will tell you, it has to be redone every 10 years or so. And maintained in between.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 03-09-2012
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 14,604
Thanks: 67
Thanked 178 Times in 174 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Re: Blue topsides

Nothing looks 'better' to my eye than a pristine 'flag blue' hull when it's clean and shiny.. but there's really no way to avoid scars in dark colours other than avoid making them in the first place.

When we repainted a previous boat we knew we'd never get it fair enough for a dark colour like that, but didn't want white, or red (which seems to suffer degradation faster than other colours) so chose Awlgrip's 'whisper grey'.. it's a nice compromise looks kinda classy and it's something that gets you out of the 'chlorox bottle' genre. Also a variety of trim and stripe colours work well with it.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 03-09-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 8,691
Thanks: 10
Thanked 113 Times in 107 Posts
Rep Power: 6
Minnewaska will become famous soon enough Minnewaska will become famous soon enough
Re: Blue topsides

That's the holy grail you're looking for. Docking becomes a whole new stress.

I love the look too. Darker the better. Flag blue is just too common. Majestic is the way to go.

They say the new Alexseal is repairable, assuming you are thinking Awlgrip. Invented by the original inventor of Awlgrp after noncompete contract expired. I used it, but (fingers crossed) havent needed to repair it yet.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 03-09-2012
Barquito's Avatar
Barquito
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,907
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 7
Barquito is on a distinguished road
Re: Blue topsides

Quote:
.. but there's really no way to avoid scars in dark colours other than avoid making them in the first place.
I thought that would probably be the consensus... don't run into sh*t

My expectations are that is would look good initially, OK after a few years, beat-up for a few years, then re-do.

This will be DIY, roll and tip. I did Brightsides on a previous boat and found I had some brush marks, but, was happy with the results... in white. Will it be really difficult to get decent finish in a dark color?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 03-09-2012
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 14,604
Thanks: 67
Thanked 178 Times in 174 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Re: Blue topsides

Dark colours show up imperfections in fairing much more readily than lighter colours, and also, esp in salt water, REALLY show the dried salt. However that may be a good thing as you're motivated to rinse it away as often as you can.. not entirely a bad thing.

I know one fastidious owner that sponges the boat down at anchor after sailing for the day.

But if rolling and tipping leaves you with 'brush marks' they'll be much more visible in a dark colour. Look into reducers formulated esp for rolling and tipping, and I believe there are additives available to help paint 'flow' out more readily (hopefully without running!!)

Good luck!
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 03-09-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Kingston Washington
Posts: 500
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 5
Waltthesalt is on a distinguished road
Re: Blue topsides

ony thing about dark blue, which I have. If your rub-rails are old and white their oxidation will streak the sides. I'm replacing my '74 vintage rubrails at about $400 because of it.
__________________
Walt Elliott
Kingston WA
Puget Sound
Cal-29
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 03-09-2012
SloopJonB's Avatar
Senior Moment Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 10,615
Thanks: 56
Thanked 48 Times in 45 Posts
Rep Power: 4
SloopJonB will become famous soon enough
Re: Blue topsides

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faster View Post

When we repainted a previous boat we knew we'd never get it fair enough for a dark colour like that, but didn't want white, or red (which seems to suffer degradation faster than other colours)
Red doesn't just SEEM to degrade faster, it actually does. Red pigments are the weakest re: sun degradation, of all pigments. This applies to all finishes - paint, gel, autos - you name it.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 03-09-2012
bljones's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: South Coast Ontario
Posts: 8,128
Thanks: 32
Thanked 69 Times in 62 Posts
Rep Power: 7
bljones has a spectacular aura about bljones has a spectacular aura about
Re: Blue topsides

Whiskeyjack has been dark blue since May 2010. One of the reasons we painted her with Brightside was because we knew she would get scratched from time to time, and Brightside is easily repairable on the water. Wet sand, wipe down, touch up with a foam brush, tip with a foam brush, done.
__________________
It's 5 o'clock somewhere:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 03-10-2012
chrisncate's Avatar
prwg, NOW!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 4,639
Thanks: 18
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 5
chrisncate is on a distinguished road
Re: Blue topsides

No - the scratches will be white if deep enough, always. Like the douchey bully said though - brightside for the win (and ease of repair).

I have already done one "lean over the side" touch up since the refit, and I now have another that I am waiting for a warm day to get done. Loving your flag blue is like choosing to go with varnish, it's gonna own you but it's well worth it


Last edited by chrisncate; 03-10-2012 at 12:27 AM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Topsides job in the eastern Caribbean ? TQA Gear & Maintenance 10 06-28-2011 10:47 AM
Re: Looking for Topsides Painter NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 06-11-2007 02:15 PM
Looking for Topsides Painter NewsReader Mass Bay Sailors 0 06-11-2007 11:15 AM
topsides paint JimOppy Gear & Maintenance 2 11-10-2003 02:06 AM
Imron on Topsides? Andy S Gear & Maintenance 2 10-23-2002 08:21 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.