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Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

Home - Bottompaint.us came up while I was web searching for the pricey blue stuff. Their home page looks just dandy, says they're top rated by practical sailor...except, their links to the PS ratings article don't go there.

And they offer a great 5-year warranty, if you're still alive and see critters within five years, they'll ship you more paint. Well. Except the link to the warranty details page (teehee) goes to another blank page with some latin boilerplate (lorum ipsum stuff) instead of warranty details.

So I'm thinking...Are these guys just totally inept at communications? or is this a scam, with no PS ratings behind it either?

Anyone seem the last PS ratings on blue gold? Are they in it?
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Generally anytime you see the Latin pages it is a scam to get credit card numbers and I'd theft.
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Weird. They use same physical address as ipaint.us.
I have "blue water ablative" on my boat's bottom, I used their two part polyurethane topside pant on a project boat and I toured the factory (actually , I did delivery there). "Blue water" paints from ipaint are good.

It could be same paint, different distributor.
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Re: Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

So they are also using a physical address that isn't quite theirs and a product that may be made for them, rather than "by" them. Maybe ipaint is just trying to, ah, build a boat-specific brand among their many lines of coatings.

But some of the web pages at ipaint are also exactly the same, and make the same claim, to see the links on the FAQ page for the "crushing" results of the PS tests. Which of course, aren't linked to at all.

In this day and age, is it really too much to hire some junior high school kid to work on one's web site after band practice?

Nah, life's too short. I smell fish oil. (Oh wait, that's normal in paint, isn't it?)
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Re: Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

PS's latest issue had the results of 36 months? of bottom paint testing & I could be wrong but I do not remember seeing these guys on the list.
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Here are 14 month results:
Based on the performance of our 14-month panels, sailors looking for one to two years of protection against hard growth don’t need to pay a fortune. In the hard paints, Pettit’s Unepoxy and Blue Water Copper Shield 45 were Budget Buys. Pettit’s Unepoxy Plus and Copper Guard offer good value in the hard paint category. Blue Water’s Copper Shield 45 Hard is also a reliable low-budget contender. In the ablative category, there was a tie after 14 months, with Blue Water’s Copper Shield 45 Ablative ($135) and Interlux’s Bottomkote ACT ($140) offering the best value. Pettit Horizons and Sea Hawk AF-33 are also solid choices for the small-budget sailor.
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Re: Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

I suppose if TBT is out, tin foil sheeting would still be legal? (sigh)

Only thing I'm sure of, is that Interlux says Micron66 is for SALT water, not brackish, not fresh. Ru, were you quoting PS? Did they say what kind of water mix they were in?

I stopped using hard paint when I ran out of JATO bottles and had to radically reduce hull speed. (G)

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Found the free tease extract from PS online:
" The best ablative paints at six months included Copper Shield SCX 45 by Blue Water, EP-21 by Epaint, and Hydrocoat and Vivid Free by Pettit. The top long-term bottom paints—those appropriate for multi-season antifouling protection—included Interlux Micron 66, Pettit Trinidad SR, and Interlux Epoxycop."
IOW, Blue Water had a product that worked great, for one season. Ah, it gets deeper...

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Yes, i was quoting PS. They do the tests at the Sarasota Sailing Squadron in Sarasota, Fla. I spent a wonderful stormy day there in 2001, the place is just off the inlet, so the water is saltwater.

And I did direct quote for 14 mo results from PS site. they place BW paint there again I guess all paints are more or less the same. I'm on 23 month with BW, see some hard growth, but it is easy to clean up yet.

But again, I dumped a pound of cajun pepper into mix. Local fisherman swear it works.
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Re: Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

Does anyone know why PS does not test the following, company states good for 10 years?

multiseason antifouling 10 years protection hard wearing copper filled epoxy resin copper antifoul
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Re: Bottompaint.us : A scam? Or just inept?

Ru, not having been there to drink the water, I can only see that it is inside the bay, so may be "brackish" rather than full salt water. I suppose there's some specific amount of dissolved salt/solids that defines that, damfino. Maybe if you take exactly one liter of it and weigh it? (G)

WRT hot pepper cayenne isn't considered hot these days, if you like hot try Buy Hot Sauces, BBQ Sauce & Chile Seasonings - Mild to Wild® Pepper & Herb Co. those folks have got flavor, not just heat, but they make cayenne seem like vanilla ice cream. Might blister the gel coat. (G)

I'm kinda mystified by it all. Seen copper epoxy work marvelously one year, fail totally the next year. I'd have mor respect for card-carrying environmentalists if they said "We're going to ban TBT, but in order to prove we can accept the consequences of that, we're also going to scrub your hull every two weeks, no charge."

It's the half-assed pseudomentalists, ergh, pseudoenviromentalists that I can't stand. Give me a better way to do things--not a halfassed one. Who says barnacles and clams don't really enjoyed getting stoned off tbt and dying happy, as opposed to being raked, shucked, and eaten?!
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