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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

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The ultimate "fair" and more scientific test for holding power would be a massive test tank, 80' long X 10' wide by 6' deep or so, with known consistent sifted media & water in it.
I've been talking to the SNAME Small Craft Committee for several years on the concept of a repeatable test protocol. It's a lot of work. The goal is a set of guidelines to allow apples to apples comparison of tests over time and location. I'm still short a civil engineer with experience in saturated soils. We're heading towards publication in a peer reviewed journal.
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

Hey Netters Come and join us at Miami International Boat Show....
Booth 3698 Big Tent Outside the Convention Center....
and yes of course you tell us you are a hard time Netter and we will give you something...
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

Will you be offering any discounts on your website during the show? Just curious for those of us that can't make it.
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Unfortunately, to get this discount you have to be at the show in person.
But we will have something special for the online Netters very soon
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

Two things I don't like about the anchor (pictured in the original post of the thread):
1). Bolt assembly makes me nervous too - bolts may/WILL go loose at some point, when you least expect it. Hence it is not useful as primary anchor.
2). Stowing disassembled option - can't really be used in emergency (try bolting it together in rough seas while being blown toward lee shore). Hence not useful as secondary anchor either.
So, no use for me.
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

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Two things I don't like about the anchor (pictured in the original post of the thread):
1). Bolt assembly makes me nervous too - bolts may/WILL go loose at some point, when you least expect it. Hence it is not useful as primary anchor.
2). Stowing disassembled option - can't really be used in emergency (try bolting it together in rough seas while being blown toward lee shore). Hence not useful as secondary anchor either.
So, no use for me.
1) The wheels on your car are bolted on and they don't come off, despite thousands of rotations/loadings and unloadings. Anchors are used comparatively little, experience limited movement, and generally are in a static, none moving situation (either on the boat or in the bottom). The bolts are not likely to come undone if you have tightened them with the lock washer.

2) It seems to me that having the anchor as a secondary, or better, a storm anchor is a real feature of this anchor. You will know when conditions are picking up and that you might need to deploy this anchor in advance of actually using it. A prudent captain would assemble this secondary anchor and have it ready to deploy when he needed it, before he needed it. And if it were a storm anchor and he was aware of the situation by monitoring the weather forecasts, he might chose to have deployed this anchor before the storm arrived.
There are 6 bolts that go together quickly. Four to five minutes is sufficient. The Mantus, when disassembled into 3 parts (plus bolts) stores well. Just my opinion....I have one disassembled in my boat's locker, just in case that I should need it some day.
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

We were looking for Mantus at the Seattle Boat show. I see a 65 pounder in our future. The bolts concerned me at first but the side by side anchoring video with a Manson Supreme and the stowability of the Mantus sold me.
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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

id love one! waiting for that netter surprise! yay

afraid of bolts, geeze...then dont ride a car, bike, motorcycle, anything mechanical, be wary of your door, dont open stuff, not even the fridge cause you know bolts are scary

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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

Do the bent anchor shafts mentioned in Practical Sailor bother you? How about the steel quality the bolts are made of ? I have one and so no reason tp find the claims its better than its predacessors Rocna or Manson.


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Re: Another "Next Generation" anchor enters the market...

I haven't heard about the bent anchor shafts. I've seen the pictures of the bent anchor shafts with the new Rocna's and that would concern me so I'll look into that. Thanks for the heads up.

I have a 45 lb Manson Supreme and I love it, but there have been times that even it had a hard time setting. I really like the idea of having a BFA that sets well and that also stores well. When we switched to the Mason from previously using a Bruce and a CQR, the Manson's setting ability was immediately apparent to us the very first time we set it. So to see this Mantus set even faster than a darn good anchor like the Manson Supreme made a very good impression. I couldn 't imagine storing a 65 lb Mason Supreme in a locker somewhere, but I can see being able to do that with the Mantus.
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