Thank you for your suggestion that I contact Lehr. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of confidence in Lehr Corporate to address the issues that I and other have encountered with my outboard. When I was weighing my options for a new outboard I sought to contact Lehr Corporate in order to better understand their sales and service network. I did this because neither West Marine nor Cabela's - the big chains that carry Lehr outboards - gave me any confidence at all that they were equipped to handle warranty service issues. My first three calls to Lehr went unanswered - the phone just rang and rang. Mind you, this was during weekday business hours in Southern California. Finally, the phone was answered. I asked about warranty service; the person on the other end said it was provided by Dealers - though customers could call directly. I asked if they had dealers near St. Louis, Missouri - and the person on the phone didn't know where St. Louis was in relation to to other cities - say Chicago, for example. I asked this unfortunate women to read me the list of Southern Illinois dealers - of course, she ended up reading down the list of all the Illinois dealers - from Wisconsin to Carbondale - but, with luck she named one in O'Fallon, IL - Cope Marine - right on the way from my home to the lake where we sail.
So I call Cope Marine and speak to the son of the owner. Nice guy. He assures me that they can perform service on Lehrs. I go out there, buy the motor, and that's where we are.
So far, Lehr customer service is - how shall I put this? - full of suckitude. Cope Marine, in contrast, is aligned with my interests. I wrote my check to Cope Marine, not Lehr. That's who I will contact. I'll let them know about "Dave the Engineer" - but, frankly, if I end up returning this outboard because of quality issues, I am in a much stronger position dealing with Cope than someone at Lehr who failed third grade geography.
Sorry if I sound pissy, but that's what happens when a stupid P.O.S. design flaw keeps me from a good day on the water.
These motors are made by Hidea, it's stamped on the block. It's a knockoff copy of an early 2000s Yamaha. Theyre very clunky, hard starting, and unreliable. The Electronics are really cheap and the power pack looks like it came off a chinese mo-ped. The hood won't fit and the latches are crap. I've had so many issues with a 5hp, the carb never fueled correctly and Idle has to be High so it won't die. Replacement parts sent were USED and faulty. The paint off the Lower unit skeg came off after a few couple of uses. I would not recommend these motors to my worst enemy. I've heard many bad stories about these motors from other owners, I returned mine because of how unreliable this turd was. Lugging around an empty propane canister at a marina and finding a filling station is a hassle. Please do yourselves a favor and get a Tohatsu/Nissan/Mercury, Yamaha, anything over this motor. Customer service was sub par, the man who answered couldnt help me start this thing for his life, Dave (Engineer) did help me figure out the problems though, but never ran correctly...
Winterizing - just unscrew the propane tank? I guess this guy hasn't heard that 4-stroke engines REQUIRE oil changes. The usual time for an oil change is at winter lay-up.
Storage - just store below in your sailboat, and not get that gasoline odor? Ummmm, have you ever caught a whiff of propane? Also, it could be inferred from the video that he is advocating the storage of the engine and propane canister below deck. This can make your boat go boom!
While I liked the idea of the propane powered outboard, I did not like that it is a 4-stroke, and would therefore require ongoing oil changes. Had I known of the cheap Chinese manufacturing, I would have been even me more leery. All in all, I have to say that I LOVE the Mercury/Nissan/Tohatsu 3hp 2-stroke that I bought from eBay.
I agree this guy represents the company and doesnt know his product, what a shame. Hes supposedly a captain too. I actually saw this guy in Marina Del Rey.. Anyway i love my 6hp mercury/nissan 4 stroke , huge upgrade over that clunky chinese junk !
Hi, I'm new here but thought I should chime in and post since my experiences with the Lehr outboards have been positive. I'm a member of a sail club in Long Beach that operates a fleet of small 22-24' Catalina's and use 5 hp outboards as kickers. We have 4 Lehr 5hp motors and a few Tohatsu's and Mercs. The propane motors have gradually over the summer become the favorites of the club members. They always start easily and there isn't any gasoline odor from refilling or even in the exhaust when the wind is blowing from the stern. There haven't been any problems with them that I know of, and I've been watching them to see how they hold up corrosion-wise, and they seem pretty good. They look about the same as the Tohatsus and Mercs and they are all living on the stern suspended over the seawater 24-7. Not sure about Thundraman's experiences.. doesn't match mine based on 4 of the same type engines.
So far I'm sold on propane as a outboard fuel. I'm strongly considering buying a larger one for my 16' runabout when the bigger ones become available.
Well that was my experience, in regards to the 2hp Honda, I do agree those little motors are troublesome. I personally would never buy anything Chinese, I bought it assuming it was made in USA or maybe Japan, but its Chinese and quality does show..
A friend of ours bought a 5hp LEHR. The problems he had were just beyond belief. Since we are moving our boat to the Caribbean in the next two years I can't wait to get my hands back onto a 2-stoke motor. I can get a modern 9.9 two stroke that weighs the same as my 6 hp four stroke, 58 lbs. Two strokes are so simple and easy to care for, and the new ones are incredibly light.