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Also, yes, it's the outside of the hull above the waterline. The topside could probably use some paint, but it's not that bad as is.

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BA... the outside of the hull above the waterline IS the 'topsides'... what you're calling the topsides is the deck. And to continue the confusing terminology, know that the inside surfaces of the hull above the waterline is the "ceiling" and the underside of the deck/cabin is the 'overhead'...
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Re: Side paint

Have you considered waxing and polishing the topsides?
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Re: Side paint

I had thought about it but since it's chalking, to my novice eyes, it seemed perhaps too far gone. I'm certainly open to giving it a shot first, as it would cost a thousand times less.

I had looked at a one stage wax/polish, and then if it showed significant improvement I would go ahead with the work of a two stage.

And WOW i need to get a hold of this terminology! So yes, the topsides are what I'm talking about, the deck is fair and doesn't need too much attention at this time, just a good scrubbing (I have a separate thread trying to find soaps safe to use while in the water.)
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Waxing is probably temporary at best, if it's chalking. I would try to machine compound it, if my fallback plan was to paint. A bad compound job could force you to paint. But, it may be worth the effort to potentially avoid needing to.
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I just picked up StarBrite wash/wax as a first step. The 2 step would be the compound wax then polish. Let's see how clean she gets after some scrubbing first. I'll report back.
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Re: Side paint

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This might help Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

You have to remove the oxidation before you polish and wax.
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BA... the outside of the hull above the waterline IS the 'topsides'... what you're calling the topsides is the deck. And to continue the confusing terminology, know that the inside surfaces of the hull above the waterline is the "ceiling" and the underside of the deck/cabin is the 'overhead'...
And yet, leaving the cabin and going on deck is often called "going topsides" and a popular brand of DECK shoes are "topsiders" so I can understand the confusion.

What we really need is a sticky: "Newbie's salty glossary: Read first!" , with all of the most essential terminology to be able to communicate on sailnet, and the dock, passably intelligently.
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Re: Side paint

So, yesterday I was in the water hand washing the boat, getting to know every inch of her. I have come to the conclusion that A: she needs a bottom job ASAP. and B: she really could use a sanding and a new coat of gel on the topsides and C: the striping needs to be stripped and repainted, as it's peeling, and the color under it is peeling as well.

Crap.

I'm going to do it myself, and I'll be following that wonderful thread posted in this thread as my how to guide.

Now comes the search for affordable (LOL right) gel and bottom paint, and figuring out the costs of having her pulled from the water and set up in a DIY yard.

Could anyone contribute what the haul out and monthly fees in a DIY yard might be? Also, are there any "hidden" charges these yards like to stick people with?

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Re: Side paint

Are you really planning to redo the gelcoat? That's a nightmare and not a great DIY job. At worst, I thought you would sand her down, fair in filler, prime and paint.

Don't be penny wise and pound foolish with the bottom paint. Get one that works well in your area. The effectiveness of bottom paint is very regional. The cost savings for the cheapest paint will come back in the form of hull cleaning or more frequent application.
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Re: Side paint

p.s. if you're committed to painting, a small area with compound (not wax) is worth trying. If it comes out well, younwill save yourself a ton of grief. If not, you're back to painting.

The cove and boot stripes are easier to deal with and can be stripped and repainted. While the boot should be painted, I'm a fan of a vinyl cove stripe, which can then be changed more easily between paintings. Takes the pressure off color selection too, since it can be peeled back and redone.
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