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Monty23Guy 03-24-2012 12:31 PM

Barient 17 Service Question
 
Does anyone have experience servicing a Barient 17 S/T winch? The bearings are white Delrin in a black race. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to grease the Delrin bearings, and if so, with what type of grease?

SloopJonB 03-24-2012 05:41 PM

Re: Barient 17 Service Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty23Guy (Post 850067)
Does anyone have experience servicing a Barient 17 S/T winch? The bearings are white Delrin in a black race. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to grease the Delrin bearings, and if so, with what type of grease?


Almost all the winches I've ever had were Barients but, full disclosure, I've never had a 17.

I'm a big fan of white lithium grease on winches. I've seen more than one type of grease called white lithium so be sure to get the type that is a pale cream colour and has a texture or viscosity about like stiff yogurt.

I currently have a cup of Gunk brand that is very satisfactory.

Strip and clean all the parts as per normal then coat them all with the white lithium. Spread it on the bearing race surface inside the drum and fill the bearings as you would an automotive wheel bearing. Put a good coat on the gears as well. After reassembling the winch, don't fasten the drum down, spin it several rotations then slip it off and check for any grease that has "piled up" or squeezed out anywhere. Wipe any such surplus off and reassemble the winch.

I have found that, contrary to conventional wisdom, you CAN grease the pawls and springs with this stuff - its light viscosity doesn't cause the stiction that is the basis for the conventional attitude of oil only on them.

A LIGHT coat on them clings better than oil and will also quiet them down noticeably.

Lastly, don't use PTFE grease with roller bearings - it is so slippery that it will cause the rollers to "skid" on the race instead of rolling. And don't waste your money on proprietary winch grease from the manufacturers - it is absurdly expensive and isn't as good as white lithium. I spent $17 on a little tube of Lewmar grease that was only enough to do two winches and it was very sticky and made the winches very stiff to turn. The Gunk white lithium cost $5 for a cup that will last me a decade.

Monty23Guy 03-25-2012 07:09 PM

Re: Barient 17 Service Question
 
Thanks for the info. I put them back together today and they spin and sound so much better.

cktalons 05-15-2012 09:18 PM

Re: Barient 17 Service Question
 
I'm so glad I found this thread. I need to grease my Barient 24 ST winches before I go out on my next sail, and it looks like plenty of retailers offer Gunk White Lithium grease, but it comes in a few types. Which type have you used to service your winches? This is my first time ever, ever, ever in my life to work on a sailboat winch, and I don't want to screw it up!

SloopJonB 05-15-2012 10:57 PM

Re: Barient 17 Service Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cktalons (Post 871605)
I'm so glad I found this thread. I need to grease my Barient 24 ST winches before I go out on my next sail, and it looks like plenty of retailers offer Gunk White Lithium grease, but it comes in a few types. Which type have you used to service your winches? This is my first time ever, ever, ever in my life to work on a sailboat winch, and I don't want to screw it up!

It's called Gunk general purpose white lithium grease for home, shop & marine. It comes in a plastic cup like a sour cream cup.

If you aren't sure it's the right type, pop the cap off and see if it's a yellowy cream colour and has a texture about like stiff yogurt.

P.S. Only do one winch at a time so if you get confused or forget how it goes back together, you have the other as a reference.

P.P.S. There is an older thread "winches useful life" that had a lot of good info on winch maintenance. It was last December.


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