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Propane valve

The following is a valve for the propane stove in the hanging locker adjacent to the galley.
I have not traced every inch but as far as i can tell there is no solenoid.

This is a 1990 Beneteau 32s5.

Is this the way they built?
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Re: Propane valve

Don't know if Bendytoe built it that way.
There had better be an appropriate propane canister locker that is vented at the bottom to outside the boat though. If there is a solenoid valve it should be in the tank's locker close to the tank in the gas line.
If there is no switch on the main electrical panel for 'gas' then it is probable a PO added propane to the boat and not Bendytoe and the switch was located somewhere else. I have seen this arrangement on another boat.
What propane appliances does that boat have that it needs 2 independent gas lines with valves installed in the cabin?

Bene505's boat has a gas solenoid switch located on the main panel.

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Re: Propane valve

From a quick glance that doesnt look kosher. Where is the solenoid? is this in a vented locker? What does this get plummed to on the other side of the wall/ compartment/ biulkhead. Where is this located exactly?

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Re: Propane valve

I have seen gas valves such as this. Usually there is also a solenoid right at the tank where it belongs.

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Re: Propane valve

The 2002 B36.7 we've sailed a bit on down south had a similar setup in the aft cabin hanging locker aft of the galley. No solenoid, just a 'gascock' like that shown. This is a French model, not the US built version.

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Re: Propane valve

As Faster said a French model is likely different unless it was sold new in North America. It is similar in the UK. Many of their boats have a manual valve below the stove. This is not allowed by ABYC - there must not n=be any connections outside the propane locker except at the appliance.

This pic shows a Westerly in the UK with the manual valve under the stove.
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Go to the following site and register to post--this is a Beneteau owners site which is very helpfull tracking down problems.
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Re: Propane valve

It seems to me that the purpose of the shut-off valve is to prevent the risk of propane leaking in areas beyond the placement of the valve. Here, with this arrangement, propane would not be allowed to leak beyond this locker, but it could accumulate in the locker or anyplace between this locker and the tank. The only prudent arrangement is to have the shut-off valve, a solenoid for convenience, at the tank and the tank in a vented location.
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Re: Propane valve

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The following is a valve for the propane stove in the hanging locker adjacent to the galley.
I have not traced every inch but as far as i can tell there is no solenoid.

This is a 1990 Beneteau 32s5.

Is this the way they built?
That is a shutdown valve in the line from the gas bottle locker to the galley. The solenoid is typically installed in the gas-bottle locker adjacent to the connector that one screws onto the gas bottles. The in-line shut down valve can be closed in the event of a failure of the solenoid--although the typical failure mode for those is the closed position--or in the event of a fire on the stove that might prevent one from reaching the valves on the stove itself.

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That is a shutdown valve in the line from the gas bottle locker to the galley. The solenoid is typically installed in the gas-bottle locker adjacent to the connector that one screws onto the gas bottles. The in-line shut down valve can be closed in the event of a failure of the solenoid--although the typical failure mode for those is the closed position--or in the event of a fire on the stove that might prevent one from reaching the valves on the stove itself.
It does add 2 unnecessary connections - that is the part that violates ABYC. If a solenoid loses power it will close. The failsafe in any case is the actual valve on the tank - no other is needed. The control for the solenoid should be by the stove but located so you do not have to reach across the stove to operate it.

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