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A Stuffing box repair

Here is Marsh Harbors Stuffing repair to my boat, $350 dollars worth. The shaft to coupling bolt was sized up and the broke it off. I had to pay extraction labor. Only fair I guess. It was purty bad down there.
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

If you can't do it then it costs : I think you paid plenty! but I suppose its got a warranty & insurrance; What can you say ,Time & mat.....Dale
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

How much was parts - and which parts were replaced? How much was labor?

My first thought is that they should have used Awab hose clamps - much kinder to the rubber hose.
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

Seems very fair to me. Was the boat in the water? they had to remove the shaft from the old rusty motor coupling. clean the shaft, remove the box and clean it up and reinstall with a new hose and packing. ask yourself what would you charge to do that much work on a boat? what if they did that much on your car it would be $ 350 or more
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

Nice to know how much I saved by doing this job myself.
My questions are:
how much of the cost was for labor?
how much for new parts (assuming that is a new stuffing box, hose and hose clamps)?

Having recently done this job I can say it can be a bytch to get the coupling and shaft separated, especially one as rusty and neglected looking as shown in your first pic. They may have had to pull your prop or even drop your rudder in order to remove the shaft, which you need to do to replace or take off a stuffing box. On my boat the prop just clears the rudder so that part was easy.

$350? Possibly justified for this job.

We replaced our prop shaft, cutless bearing, shaft log tube & clamps and stuffing box packing this off season. We reused our old stuffing box because it looked just fine once cleaned up with a wire wheel but I priced a new stuffing box assembly and if memory serves it is around 100 bucks +/-. 350 sounds pretty reasonable

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Re: A Stuffing box repair

That sounds more than fair to me - that before shot was nasty.

It's LONG past time you cleaned up your bilge as well.
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

That is a STEAL and in fact so cheap that I question if the coupling to shaft fit is still correct... Normally with a shaft extraction it requires a new coupling and the machine shop labor to make it fit correctly. At $90.00 / HR, what many yards charge, it means they completed that job in about 3.5 hours, a record time for a "proper" shaft extraction. If they used a slide hammer..... well your good deal may not be so good for your gear box down the road... HOPEFULLY they extracted it properly but from the looks of your bill that is very questionable..
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

They had to get a rusted coupling bolt out of the coupling, the shaft and prop were removed polished up. They cleaned up the old stuffing box. They told me it was nasty but in great shape otherwise. The C&C 30mk1 has an offset alignment so the rudder did not have to come out. The repacked the old stuffing box and put it all back together. They did use a slide thing on the shaft to get it out? He did not have to beat on it. I saw him tap it like 4 times then he twisted back in forth and it came out. The lion share of cost was the extraction of the coupling bolt to the shaft. He had to tap it out and clean the threads up. I could not do the job myself. They donít allow people to work on their boats on the haulout. They site insurance. I think the price was worth what they did.
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Re: A Stuffing box repair

It does not seem an excessive cost for that job, and they seem to have done it well.
Getting a coupling off a shaft can be difficult if it has been on there a while. The first time I had to get a coupling off a shaft, I had to cut mine off with a grinder. The last time, heat, and hammering got it off.
The excuse used that you are not allowed to work on your own ship because of "insurance" is just that, an excuse.
If I had paid anyone to do all the work on my ship, I would be bankrupt by now.

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Re: A Stuffing box repair

You definitely were not overcharged, but at least they could have used the correctly sized hose clamps. Those too long tails are just waiting to slice your hands and fingers when you get around to cleaning your bilge. Plus the screw head on two of them appear to be placed so low in the bilge they will surely corrode and fail before it is time to do the job again.
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