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Rebedding wood toe rail

I removed my wood toe rail in order to paint the deck. The bottom of the toe rail appears to be concave such that just the inboard and outboard edges of the rail would be flush to the deck. When I re-mount, should the entire concavity be filled with butyl? It seems it would take a huge amount of butyl to do this.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

You could try looking up something else like Boatlife, Boat caulk. http://boatlife.com/life-seal.html
using butyl for the whole job might make things a bit more expensive.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

Barquito

This is one job on my list and I should do it shortly.
I assume the bottom of the toerail should be flush with the deck otherwise it will leak. Could it be concave to accept some deck curvature? In any case, I would definitely use butyl to fill it because that is where the screw holes are. It should not be expensive for a 27 footer – the butyl is 1/2inch wide, you could use 3 or 4 side by side or overlapping, that is more or less 30’ X 2 (two sides) X 4 = 240 feet, about 5 rolls if you are using Maine Sails.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

If it really should be flush with the deck, I could fill it in with thickened epoxy. In a few places I thought it may be that it just was hollowed out from decay. But other places that looked clean are still maybe 3/16' off the deck in the middle.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

According to Don Casey, that hollow is to keep the rail from rocking. It's not supposed to be all that deep. Unless you can find a way to put a good strip of butyl on each side of the deepest part, I'd fill it. Wouldn't want to do that job twice.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

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According to Don Casey, that hollow is to keep the rail from rocking. It's not supposed to be all that deep. Unless you can find a way to put a good strip of butyl on each side of the deepest part, I'd fill it. Wouldn't want to do that job twice.
Arf has it - the hollow should be very slight - just enough to keep the middle from contacting the deck and no more. If it's too deep, plane or sand the bottom to a correct depth.

I'd use something in a tube to seal that piece.
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

Thanks for the info. That makes sense. The toe rail has the genoa track mounted on top. Wouldn't be good if it was rocking back and forth.
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I'd use something in a tube to seal that piece.
Why is that? Is that because there isn't enough pressure for the butyl to seal properly?
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Why is that? Is that because there isn't enough pressure for the butyl to seal properly?
Just seems too big and long a piece to seal with tape - I could be wrong on that. How wide does butyl tape come?
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Re: Rebedding wood toe rail

My tape is only about 5/8" wide, but kind of thick. It will smoosh into whatever shape, of course. Not really sure how it will seal the bolts going through the toe rail, and into the deck. From the info on MainSails site, it looks like butyl needs the hardware to be pressing down to keep a good seal. In my case there would be a gap.
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