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"New Rocnas"

At risk of being seriously flogged for bringing up the "Rocna" issues, I thought I would ask as to where are the new Rocnas are built since Canada Metals bought the brand? Are they still made in China? What grade of steel is being used? I know the previous China ones were built with softer steel and not the hi-tensile steel that the first Rocnas were. I searched the forums for an answer, but my head began to spin after reading the countless posts of the "issues"........Thanks....for being kind?
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Re: "New Rocnas"

Don't know the answer to your questions (good ones by way) but did note that West Marine has them on sale for prices below the Manson Supreme at Defender.
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We're considering replacing our trusty (but rusty) CQR so am interested in these questions too...
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Re: "New Rocnas"

I guess while were at it, where are the Manson anchors made?
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Re: "New Rocnas"

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At risk of being seriously flogged for bringing up the "Rocna" issues, I thought I would ask as to where are the new Rocnas are built since Canada Metals bought the brand? Are they still made in China? What grade of steel is being used? I know the previous China ones were built with softer steel and not the hi-tensile steel that the first Rocnas were. I searched the forums for an answer, but my head began to spin after reading the countless posts of the "issues"........Thanks....for being kind?
Still built in China, and using lower grade steel then originally speced by Peter Smith. Apparently he is OK with that. Hmmmmmmmmm
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Thanks for the link Paul....insightful.

I am curious though, I have a Tartan 37C, about 18,000lbs loaded, and using Rocnas recommendation puts me into a Rocna 20 which is 45lbs. Manson Supreme recommends the 35 lb....why the difference? I do see that Rocna takes into account the weight and length of the vessel and Manson only uses the length. Should I go with the 45 lb Manson? The pricing on both seem to be similar these days.
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Re: "New Rocnas"

Rocna uses higher wind speeds to generate their guidance than other manufacturers. I would use the Rocna guidance for both Rocna and Manson Supreme.

Just as a data point, I have been using a Rocna 25 on my 41' 22k# boat through all kinds of conditions for five years. The sizing, straight off the Rocna table, works for me.
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Thanks for the link Paul....insightful.

I am curious though, I have a Tartan 37C, about 18,000lbs loaded, and using Rocnas recommendation puts me into a Rocna 20 which is 45lbs. Manson Supreme recommends the 35 lb....why the difference? I do see that Rocna takes into account the weight and length of the vessel and Manson only uses the length. Should I go with the 45 lb Manson? The pricing on both seem to be similar these days.
Because some companies care whether you drag and others care whether you buy an anchor.

That ought to get a good one going. 1500 post minimum.......
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Re: "New Rocnas"

We purchased our Rocna 15 before all the kerfuffle, they assured us that no sub par 15kg Rocnas were imported into North America when I inquired about an exchange so apparantly we are Ok....And it does seem to work as advertised. The most trouble we have with ours is getting it out of the bottom even when the rode is straight up. I personally don't mind this problem....
Canada Metal is now offering a lifetime warranty on their Rocna anchors, which are still manufactured in China, http://www.rocna.com/our-story/rock-solid-technology/, (however they do not mention the grade of steel used) to include bending or deformation, as well as breakage. See below. I guess they are confident.



Posted on 23 January 2012Canada Metal Announces New Rocna Anchors WarrantyThe Rocna Anchors lifetime warranty has been expanded to include bending or deformation, in addition to breakage, in a new warranty policy. It applies to the lifetime of the original purchaser when the anchor is sized appropriately for the boat, using Rocna's sizing recommendations.

"Many companies warranty against breakage, but we're so confident in Rocna's rugged design that we protect against manufacturing defects and bending. An anchor is vital safety equipment, and we give our customers peace of mind their Rocna will perform as promised," said John Mitchell, president of Canada Metal (Pacific) Ltd. The company recently acquired the Rocna manufacturing license.

Canada Metal (Pacific) has also expanded its successful relationship with independent rep firm Derema Group, appointing them to manage US sales and distribution of Rocna Anchors. Derema Group covers the marine and outdoor markets nationwide, and has managed Canada Metal (Pacific)'s marine aftermarket sales in the US for more than five years. Canada Metal (Pacific) is a world-leading producer of CMP chain, Martyr marine anodes, Octopus marine autopilot drive systems and Intellisteer remote steering systems

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