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Well our used and abused, no name, rebuilt and rebuilt again anchor windlass has reached the end of it's life. The final nail being my latest attempt at 'fixing' the beast after it gave up the ghost with 50 Metres of chain down in 25knot winds. The motor needs replacing(among other things) and basically it's just not worth it.

So we are windlass shopping, I have ended up with a shortlist of two, the Muir HR 1600 Cougar, and a Lofran Tigress, both for basically the same kind of money. Does anyone have any feedback or experience with either??

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Well our used and abused, no name, rebuilt and rebuilt again anchor windlass has reached the end of it's life. The final nail being my latest attempt at 'fixing' the beast after it gave up the ghost with 50 Metres of chain down in 25knot winds. The motor needs replacing(among other things) and basically it's just not worth it.

So we are windlass shopping, I have ended up with a shortlist of two, the Muir HR 1600 Cougar, and a Lofran Tigress, both for basically the same kind of money. Does anyone have any feedback or experience with either??
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Not so much with the exact models but Raven had a Muir Cub that I rebuilt against I must say Muir's advice. They were of enormous help even while shaking their heads in dismay. Gearbox crapped out first and they told me the motor would be sure to follow so why not buy a new one. They were right but there you go. So, on the basis of service Muir get my vote.

New girl has a Lofrans and I must say it is a good piece of kit.

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Re: Muir v Lofran

Thanks Andrew,

The Lofran is a 1500w motor as opposed to 1000w in the Muir for $150 difference overall. So leaning towards the Lofran. They have changed distributors a few times which worries me a little but they do seem like a very good unit.

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Re: Muir v Lofran

We've been quite happy with our Tigres. I overhauled the gearbox a couple of years ago, and it was a pretty straight forward event. The tech supprt folks I called (can't remember exactly who at this point) were quite helpful. I wound up replacing the inner clutch cone, which had become out of round due to a PO's failure to properly use a snubber line while at anchor.

If you intend to install the up/down foot switches, do yourself a favor and shop around for the best ones you can find. The Imtra switches that come with the unit have a reputation for developing corrosion on the contacts -- which based on my experience is well earned. I've had to contort myself into the chain locker to clean the contacts all too frequently, and eventually had to replace one of the switches when I did the overhaul.

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A LOT of the charter boats use the Lofrans Tigres and that was why I bought one.

No probs so far in 2 1/2 years [touching wood] with the windlass but the foot switches are pants.

On my 5th switch. Incompatible materials cause galvanic corrosion inside the switch.
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Thanks Andrew,

The Lofran is a 1500w motor as opposed to 1000w in the Muir for $150 difference overall. So leaning towards the Lofran. They have changed distributors a few times which worries me a little but they do seem like a very good unit.

I'm thinking that the change in distributors has been down to price limiting success. Our business imports from Europe and in the past the exchange rate has been a mongrel. With the current exchange rate however, European products are cheaper than they have been in years. The extra power would swing me as well.

TQA mentions the foot switches ... Raven had Muir as I said before and while I had to replace the original switch (20 years old) I've had no probs with the new. On Kukka the Lofrans uses a wired remote which is not terribly waterproof. Go figure. When it died I pulled it apart, applied hair dryer to circuit board then taped the bugger up as well as I could. No problems since.

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Re: Muir v Lofran

Thanks all,

I am thinking I will go with the Lofrans and I might shop around for Footswitches.

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