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Brait Anchor Rode

Hi, I'm in the market for new anchor rode, and looking around I found a type I had not seen before...

Anchor Rode, Brait single braid nylon. 5/8" x 300' . Yale Cordage Brait absorbs 75% more energy than 3 strand nylon while using 60% less storage space. Brait absorbs more energy than any other line and cannot hockle.

Rope Anchor Line 5/8""X300' Nylon Brait HD Stainless Steel Thimble

Has anyone used this? Seen any reviews? I like the 60% less storage space as I have a 32 foot boat for four of us, and it sounds like it might be a bit stronger too (or at least more energy absorbing).

It is a bit more expensive, and I'm weighing the benefits against the cost on something I could easily loose or damage.

Any thoughts on this type of line are welcome!

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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

i have that rope from defender,half inch,it does store well,flattens out,havent really used it because i have150 of chain in front of it.i just use the chain with a snuber shock lenth of 12 foot.the only problem mite be abrasion because it has no sleeve,not for everyone imho
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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

Thanks for the replies. While I can see the energy absorption not mattering that much, the storage size seems to be legit. Due to the loose braid on the rope, it can fold down a lot more then standard 3 strand or double braid. Essentially the actual mass is the same, but there is less wasted air space. Pic below that demonstrates what they mean. I also found may major manufacturers such as New England make a version, sometimes called Plait, but seems to be the same idea.

I'm a bit concerned about the loose braid though for continual use. It feels like it would catch more on any small protrusion, and trap more mud or junk inside when used. I have nothing to back that up as I haven't ever even touched one so I'd be interested in hearing from someone who uses one regularly.

For now I'll likely stick to 3 strand, but might consider this for the backup anchor as it would store nicer out of the way when not needed. Currently I just hate the thought of paying 1/3 more for something I'm going to dump in the water and drag over rocks which seems more susceptible to damage from that sort of treatment.

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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

I have this as my primary anchor line with 15 ft of chain. Seemed the 3 strand was always getting all twisted up in the anchor locker. This stuff lays flat, pays out easily and so far (1 season) has held up well. I've heard that chafe is a concern and the soft hand of the line can lead to it picking and pulling small little sections of the fibers out. So far, we havent seen any of these issues, and I dont think the rode picks up any more of the Chesapeake mud than 3 strand.
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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

I use Yale brait as a pennant on my mooring which is in an exposed location. The brait seems to put less shock load on the mooring and cleats than siimilarly sized three-strand nylon pennant. Base upon this and the easier storage I'll probably replace one of my one anchor rodes with brait.

Downside: It was a bear to splice. I ended up with tennis elbow.
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Here's a related question. Does anyone know whether plait might work better in a windlass? My gypsy works fine on the chain but 3 strand rode slips.
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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

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Here's a related question. Does anyone know whether plait might work better in a windlass? My gypsy works fine on the chain but 3 strand rode slips.
I have been using 5/8" Brait (in series with 30 feet of chain) as my primary anchor rode for 3 years now - and I LIKE it! Don't know about the energy absorption claims, but it flakes nicely into the locker - I have never had it hockle up, ever. Installing a new LEWMAR V3 windlass right now, and this line supposedly works well in their gypsy - makes sense, as the form of the rope is "rounder" than regular 3-strand. We'll see. . . .
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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

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Hi, I'm in the market for new anchor rode, and looking around I found a type I had not seen before...

Anchor Rode, Brait single braid nylon. 5/8" x 300' . Yale Cordage Brait absorbs 75% more energy than 3 strand nylon while using 60% less storage space. Brait absorbs more energy than any other line and cannot hockle.

Rope Anchor Line 5/8""X300' Nylon Brait HD Stainless Steel Thimble

Has anyone used this? Seen any reviews? I like the 60% less storage space as I have a 32 foot boat for four of us, and it sounds like it might be a bit stronger too (or at least more energy absorbing).

It is a bit more expensive, and I'm weighing the benefits against the cost on something I could easily loose or damage.

Any thoughts on this type of line are welcome!

Thanks,
Bryan
Yes I have this rope for my secondary bow anchor and I LOVE it (primary is all chain). It's much better behaved than 3 strand. The best way I can describe it is that it just "falls" down the hawspipe into a nice pile just like chain does. Three strand, especially once it get salted and over worked, likes to be stiff, hockle, and will refuse to go down the pipe and lay down.

After using this stuff I will NEVER go back to 3 strand. In fact, I have 450ft of 1/2" 3 strand in my shed that I won't put aboard for the stern anchor. Instead I'm going to buy more of the 8plat brait rope (when I have the money) for the stern anchor. I don't know the percentages of space taken, but it does fall into a tight heap and takes up much less space than three strand.

I don't have a dynamometer, nor any experience to guesstimate "absorption" of either type of rope, so I won't comment on that claimed advantage.

MedSailor

PS It's much cheaper at Defender and they'll splice for you as well. I bought mine from defender:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?...1170&id=675074
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Re: Brait Anchor Rode

Thanks to all for sharing your experience with this! Very helpful info.
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