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Re: How short is too short

This is the old way.
I don't like the way the anchor bracket can chafe when the boat sits at an angle which it seems to want to do.
I don't like that even though I have two mooring lines I don't get their benefit.
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Re: How short is too short

I switched to this way.
The mooring lines go directly to the cleats.
The mooring lines seem a little short but otherwise it seems like a good solution.

What do you think.
The distance shot show how it looks in about 10-15 knots.
Maybe it is OK.
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Re: How short is too short

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This is the old way.
I don't like the way the anchor bracket can chafe when the boat sits at an angle which it seems to want to do.
I don't like that even though I have two mooring lines I don't get their benefit.
I agree the chafing possibilities are scary.

Two mooring lines means that if one fails the other is backup. I would have the back up line longer. I would also use a full round turn, i.e. twice through the pennant, to reduce chafe at that point. You might also use chafe protection.
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I switched to this way.
The mooring lines go directly to the cleats.
The mooring lines seem a little short but otherwise it seems like a good solution.

What do you think.
The distance shot show how it looks in about 10-15 knots.
Maybe it is OK.
Through the chocks is better. The chafe protection is excellent.

EDIT BTW with that setup the mooring lines should be same length.
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- I dont...Id rather be annoying

davidpm. In the setup you mentioned did it the OP have one line running through the loop of the other, which would causing abrasion or did I envison what you described the wrong way
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I never take a mooring buoy pennant on board. i always use me own line through the pennant eye. years ago I did use the wet soggy eye of a mooring buoy pennant over the mooring cleat an got caught on a lee shore in a storm. since that time i use and recomend you use your own line.
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I never take a mooring buoy pennant on board. i always use me own line through the pennant eye. years ago I did use the wet soggy eye of a mooring buoy pennant over the mooring cleat an got caught on a lee shore in a storm. since that time i use and recomend you use your own line.
Would you explain this comment please.
Did you have a problem with releasing the pennant?
Is it that you are reluctant to cut the pennant in an emergency?


In this case I own the mooring, would that matter to you.
It is my permanent summer place so by definition I have to trust it. It will be the lee shore a good percentage of the time.
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davidpm. In the setup you mentioned did it the OP have one line running through the loop of the other, which would causing abrasion or did I envison what you described the wrong way
A couple posts up I have a picture.
Two lines through both pennant loops.
One pretty good one just an old dock line.
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Re: How short is too short

I had a thought that might be the best of both ideas.
How about a heavy line with the blight at the loop of one pennant and the two legs through the chocks then both cleat hitched to the one cleat.
The same thing with the other pennant to the other cleat.

Now I'm concerned that their will be chafe at the blight pennant loop so how about a cow hitch.
Would this be the very best setup?
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Would you explain this comment please.
Did you have a problem with releasing the pennant?
Is it that you are reluctant to cut the pennant in an emergency?


In this case I own the mooring, would that matter to you.
It is my permanent summer place so by definition I have to trust it. It will be the lee shore a good percentage of the time.
The mooring buoy was a public one and I was reluctant to cut it but did in the end. As I sail around the barrier reef where there are many places where anchoring is prohibited or due to depth impossible I do use the public mooring where available. and would rather cut my line than the expensive pendants on the bouys.
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